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BEST NEMESIS HP 2008

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Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush

QLD

876 posts

2 Aug 2007 1:05pm
Australia will see demos later in the month.

My review will come as soon as the kites hit Australia.



Nemesis High Performance:

Description:
The Nemesis HP flies faster, turns tighter and jumps higher than any kite on the market. It delivers unmatched handling response for big wave surfing with ultimate bomb-proof reliability, making it the perfect kite for demanding riders and all riding styles. Tuned in direct response to customer and Pro-team feedback, the Nemesis HP raises the bar for usability in a high performance kite.; No other kite comes close to offering the incredible jumping and hangtime performance of the Nemesis HP. With its perfect mix of easy control, fool-proof relaunchability and incredible turning rate, the
Nemesis HP is in a class of its own.

The third generation Cuben Fiber leading edge used in the Nemesis HP allows us to create a kite with upwind performance, jumping and hangtime ability that simply can not be matched using Dacron fabrics. Cuben Fiber is a non-woven fabric made of unidirectional filaments, using a similar lay-up to carbon fiber composites. Cuben
Fiber cloth has zero stretch, so it does not absorb steering input, giving you the fastest and most direct handling response even on the smallest bar.

Our Cuben Fiber LE is thinner and stiffer than any LE on the market, allowing us to create a more aerodynamic profile and faster flying kite that simply slices through the air for unbelievable upwind and jumping ability. With the thinnest, smoothest and stiffest leading edge in the industry, no kite responds as fast to rider input or
transmits feedback as telepathically as the Nemesis HP, and that is no gimmick.

The Nemesis HP is the first Best kite to benefit from our new VP2, Virtual Pulley Position front bridle. VP2 balances the control line loads between the turning and lifting surfaces of the kite, maximizing turning speed and stability. Unlike fixed bridle and 5th-line systems, VP2 dynamically distributes load between the wingtips and the central canopy sections to give you stability and performance that is simply out of this world. Our VP2 bridle reduces the bar travel needed for maximum depower; giving riders more freedom in how they choose to tune their bar setup without having to use a bar mounted pulley system.

The Nemesis HP gives you more wind range than any other kite due to its huge range of AOA adjustment. Whatever style of riding you are
focussed on, from big-air to the biggest waves, you will find the Nemesis HP delivers perfect power and control.

Our unique Canopy Framing Technology delivers the ultimate impact and crash protection for your kite. Evolved over two seasons, CFT has been refined for reduced canopy weight for ‘08. Straight seam construction, as seen in other kite designs, leads to the creation of stress riders and weak spots. With a revised all curved panel
cut and new TE seam protection zones, CFT guarantees that your kite will handle as perfectly at the end of your second season as it did the day you bought it.

For ‘08 we have refined the leading edge seam further, building on the legendary reputation for durability of our ‘07 line up. Triple stitched, webbing taped and internally reinforced with mark cloth, the Nemesis HP Load-flex seam once again sets the standard for kite construction.

The Nemesis HP is not just the best big-air kite that has ever been made, it is also the perfect wave and freestyle kite. With six rear line attachment point options you can tune the Nemesis HP for the perfect blend of power, turning speed and handling feedback for the way you ride. We absolutely guarantee it. The Nemesis HP is the easiest to ride, highest performance kite ever made. Our use of Cuben Fiber ensures that the HP has unmatched aerodynamic performance and the lowest drag of any kite on the market. The new
VP2 bridle system delivers an SLE kite with greater stability and maneuverability than has ever been possible.

Our legendary surf tough build quality, solid airframe construction and proven performance features guarantee
that the HP will be the most enjoyable, reliable and durable kite you ever own.

Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush

QLD

876 posts

29 Aug 2007 10:11pm
Hey crew,

we have demos just arrived in late this arvo. they look sweet with a great new packaged bag. The kites are first class. Real happy with the solid look of the entire package.

Some of the Oz Team have arrived in Mackay (Cam Prest, Thomas Motto, Luke Bourke) today to start the testing tomorrow. Wind has arrived and these babies are loaded and ready to fire. Delivery is expected in 3 weeks.

More to come tomorrow.

Joe
Blownaway
Blownaway

QLD

776 posts

4 Sep 2007 9:10pm
so hows the testing going ?
Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush

QLD

876 posts

5 Sep 2007 1:02am
I have been flying the Nemesis HP for a few days and I am impressed.

Nemesis HP SIZE: 10mtr (demo, 1 of 5 about to be circulated around Australia)
My weight : 100kg
Board : 138 x 39.5 Ltd Pro, Union boots
Wind strength : Steady 15 knots, outgoing assisted tide.


Here is my view.

seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=5825

Firstly there is a new bag, quite blinged up from what you would normally expect from Best. Real good to see that your treasured kite can now be protected in a great bag.

-When I pulled it from the bag I thought it looked very similar to a Waroo Pro. And in many ways I guess it is. It has similar paneling and the same white LE Cuben/Dacron Material. However the LE isnt all Cuben, It is only used in the main load section of the LE. This is the most crucial area that most other brands have trouble strengthening, and need to increase the diameter of the LE to accomodate the Flexing. The LE is small and when you pump it up it is rock solid. 9 psi is the rated pressure.

-The graphics look great and the kite stands out from afar.,

-The new VP2 front bridle section is where the start of the changes are. seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=5824
Peter has designed the kite to achieve a 2:1 depower system without having the use of any pulleys on the bar. Downside of this is that there is 6 pulleys on the kite, but it works well and the new Switchblades for instance have a total of 6 on the kite and 2 on the Bar. So i think its probably not that bad. Apparently the new Bar will be designed with s smaller length centre line.

- The rear bridle is directly attached to the kite similar to the 2006 Waroo and the 2007 Waroo Pro direct bridle upgrade. This helps the direct feel of the kite through the bar pressure.

- the first flight of the Nemesis HP was in a steady 15 knots and we rode in the Mackay river mouth tide going out. There was absolutely no time needed to get used to the kite as it flew very similar to the waroo pro, but it seemed to have a more tidy feel. The kite was rock solid and there was no sign of LE flex or delay in the turns. This is what make these kites different to any other I have flown for 2008. the kite is super responsive and has next to no turn delay. As soon as you pull the bar to the left, the kite instantly turns. The turning speed is quick, about the same as the Waroo 2006.

- Also like the Waroo pro the kite has that shotgun power. As soon as you dive the kite through the power, you have instant grunt. Some of the 2008 other brands I have been testing seem to have a soft progressive power that some times bores me and I feel I am looking for more. As a big rider at 100kg and attempting powered freestyle moves, I like the sensation of being instantly pulled with what I can describe as a punch of power. Very nice.

- I struggled last year with the Waroo Pro to attempt unhooked kiteloops as the kite was sensative to back stall. Also multiple unhooked moves were also tricky on the Waroo Pro. The Nemesis Hp however opened my riding up once again and after watching the footage of Shannon and the crew in Brazil smacking down huge kiteloops I thought I would give it a go and Im happy to say, I can now kiteloop when and what I want. Same with unhooked wakestyle moves. You can basically park the kite at 45. and pull off 3-4 unhooked moves, hook in, and ride away. Very nice to be able to do it again. This feature of no back stall would be th highlight of this kite for me.

- The kite jumped big, just like the Waroo pro. I would like to try the 12mtr in those conditions cause I think it would have been a lot better for my weight. Im sure the reason this kite jumps big and like the Pro last season is because of the instant turning speed. Its like the saying "pull the trigger". Your loaded up, edging hard as you can, flick your rist and bang you are reefed to incredible heights. Its like riding a traditional kite on piano wire.

-the Nemesis has the EZ pump system which internaly links all the bladders into a one pump. This is optional and is a feature ive always been a little sceptical of, because of the chance that you could have a hole in a strut bladder and the entire kite deflates. Unfortunately it happened to me on this first run. After about 45mins the kite became soft and started collapsing in the sky. I needed to land the kite and repump before I went back out. Ive addressed this problem with Peter Stiewe and he has found out that it is possible that one of the strut bladders could possibly have not been sealed to the correct frequency in the factory. He has assured me that this will not be evident in the production kites. Feeew!!

Out of all the testing of 2008 gear recently I would put the Nemesis HP as one of the top kites so far, as this is the only kite that has given me the opportunity and made me feel secure enough to throw down the big moves that I used too. I was blaming it on getting too old, but looks like I have resprung and with the help of kites like this for 2008, hopefully the bar will be lifted to a higher level of riding as more moves become achievable. Please take the opportunity to have a go at this kite. Thanks

Joe Millen
Blownaway
Blownaway

QLD

776 posts

5 Sep 2007 5:33pm
I will give it a go for sure but 6 pullys mmmmm not good!
Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush

QLD

876 posts

6 Sep 2007 8:50pm
Yeh I think they have nailed it for this year though. At least there are none on the bar and the bar pressure is light. The more I ride this kite the better it gets.
Blownaway
Blownaway

QLD

776 posts

12 Sep 2007 8:01pm
Had a fly on the beach this arv,looked good not enough wind to ride, maybe tomorro ? Very sexy looking kite though
Mr float
Mr float

NSW

3452 posts

13 Sep 2007 8:31pm
wots it got big tits ?

quote:
Originally posted by Blownaway

Had a fly on the beach this arv,looked good not enough wind to ride, maybe tomorro ? Very sexy looking kite though

kusu
kusu

QLD

485 posts

13 Sep 2007 10:15pm
no, but it definatly has balls!
The low end is incredible compared to a lot of kites i have been riding with and around this week...
Top end hasn't been tested yet either.
kusu
kusu

QLD

485 posts

14 Sep 2007 7:00pm
The demo 10m will be available at Sandgate early tomorrow for anyone who wants to ride it. I will be doing a review on it shortly that can be found on the Best forum. This kite is pretty special but I'll let you guys decide!

Kurt
Kitepower Australia
15 Sep 2007 5:16pm
quote:
[i]Originally posted by arsa (edited by steve mc)
-The new VP2 front bridle section is where the start of the changes are. seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=5824
Peter has designed the kite to achieve a 2:1 depower system without having the use of any pulleys on the bar. Downside of this is that there is 6 pulleys on the kite, but it works well and the new Switchblades for instance have a total of 6 on the kite and 2 on the Bar. So i think its probably not that bad. Apparently the new Bar will be designed with s smaller length centre line.


Joe Millen



Hi Joe

Really looking forward to getting our demo HP asap, however I just need to clarify something you said above about Cabrinha Switchblade kites.

The 2007/08 Cabrinha SB3 kites have a total of 4 single pulleys, 2 on each side of the kite, one in the front bridle and one that does some load sharing from the front to rear lines.
There are no pulleys on the bar, and the kite has a very direct feel, low bar pressure, quick pivotal turning, and excellent lift, despite the 4 pulleys.

The kite Marine Sudre had at Bowen that Mel rode was a SB3, the white and flouro orange job.

The CB3 and Contra 3 kites, also only have 4 pulleys in the kite bridle, and they do have single pulleys on the bar, to achieve maximum 2:1 depower with the shortest possible throw.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush

QLD

876 posts

16 Sep 2007 7:15pm
Ok thanks Steve. Not real familiar with Cabrinha gear as we havent had the oportunity to sell or fly them in north queensland. Information was from a guy who rang me throughout the month, said he had flown the new SB and wanted my opinion on 08 kites.

Thanks

Joe
aka
aka

aka

QLD

1 posts

16 Sep 2007 11:27pm
'Don't believe the HYPE!'

'Blownaway' suggested that I start being more active on the forums. so here goes.
We've had some great northerly winds which have been working great at the Noosa river, although I prefer to be out on the surf it has been a great opportunity to test some new kites back to back with a variety of riders.
Been waiting patiently for the new BEST Nemesis HP and it's been great to have some excellent conditions 13-23knots N/NE
I weigh in at 75kg (last look)
Using a 133 Cardboard.

My first impressions of the kite...
Firstly the build quality, look'n very tuff, the combination of the 'cuben' leading edge with the reinforced seems, awesome.
Finally BEST are spreading the load over 5 stitch lines plus an internal reinforced strip. I've seen this on GK's and Slingshot and always believed this was the way to go.
The 'kpo' style pulley bridle has now an added 2/1 pulley setup - didn't seem to cluttered and would prefer the system there than on the bar.
The rear lines are still a familiar direct connection with a few options to change the turn speed and bar pressure.

We were fortunate to have the ION2 10.5, Atom2 12, rev 11, and the 07 Waroo pro 9mtr and had a great time jumping between the different kites.
The one thing that struck me instantly when flying the Nemesis HP was the 'torque' or 'grunt' that this kite creates when accelerating it through the window.
The bar pressure may be a 'tad' more than the 07 Waroo but this gives a better feedback throughout a carve turn - it delivers a more consistent pull.
It's very quick to turn - although I am always looking for a larger kite that turns as fast as my 9mtr pro (who isn't) - it was fairly close.
When jumping the kite delivered a more 'floaty' sensation, by this I mean I seemed to travel a little further and have a softer landing.
I still find it amazing that this is only a 10mtr kite.

I'm talking about feel of a kite and of course there is only one way to gain this, Give it a GO!
The feedback from the other riders was excellent, heavier riders were impressed with the power that the kite delivers but need to compare it with a 12, hopefully be available at the end of the month.

There is a lot of hype this year and I think some excellent kites are available from many manufacturers, Make sure you compare them with this kite.
What ever your style of riding it is difficult to pass the satisfaction GTY of this brand although I have seen a few dogs run over kites on the beach - never seen one eaten.

Looking forward to testing it in the surf and hoping some of the crew contribute there feedback on the kite.

This kite is available to DEMO now! at Lake Cootharaba or in the surf.

Happy kiting!
Enjoyed the wind at Inskip 2day perfect all arvo, can't always believe the DI weather station reading.

aka.Martin


cjcos2
cjcos2

VIC

37 posts

17 Sep 2007 10:40pm
Nice vid. Look forward to a demo.
Hate the EZ pump system, have it on my Bularoo. If you lose pressure in a strut then the leading edge will deflate as well, bad bad bad.
Joe, can you confirm that EZ pump will be an option on the Nemesis HP, or does it come standard?
Cheers, Carl.
kusu
kusu

QLD

485 posts

18 Sep 2007 7:24am
it will be an option
Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush

QLD

876 posts

18 Sep 2007 1:39pm
Yep definately an option on the Nemesis HP, but they are looking at standard inflation only on the Waroo.
Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush

QLD

876 posts

18 Sep 2007 1:46pm
Kitepower will recieve a demo 10mtr for all the Sydney riders this week. Leaving the warehouse now.

Take note, that all demos are pre production demonstration kites. The colours are different to the production model as you see in the video. Also these kites havent been detailed, meaning their are some small wobbly stitches in places and bits of the art work maybe smugged. The production kites will be perfect. ..

Best is a little behind the release of the othere major brands in Australia but you need to fly this kite before you make your purchase for 2008. You will be stoked as many of my riders are already.

Thanks
Joe
kusu
kusu

QLD

485 posts

19 Sep 2007 6:39pm
Ok - how about some comments from all the people that have taken the demo 10's for a ride - I know you are reading this! Put that beer down and give us your views!
10m will be available to test at Scarborough - Brisbane tomorrow if anyone is interested and can get me off it
Blownaway
Blownaway

QLD

776 posts

19 Sep 2007 7:24pm
yeh ok...
I have been flying the nemi 10m a bit in light to full on gusty and I love it,I am 74kg an riding 136 jimmy lewiss can get going in really light,with a bit of current, and over 13knots it starts to get fun.
In gusty west north west it was real nice also, ate up the gusts no probs.Boosts real easy an turns nice an quick,good bar pressure an I think some sick kite loop jumps are on the menu for sure
cant wait to try it out on some decent waves.Build quality looks tough as,with the cubin fibre thing going on,This kite is definitely on my short list for an 08 upgrade
kusu
kusu

QLD

485 posts

19 Sep 2007 7:33pm
yeah, the bottom end is amazing for a 10 sle - can't wait to test the top end as I've only had it up to the low 20's. I've seen some weird faces being pulled lately when I've bee pumping up a 10 (being a pretty fat guy at 95ish) and others are out on 13-17m kites!
cjcos2
cjcos2

VIC

37 posts

20 Sep 2007 12:33pm
What about Aus RRP?

US Kite Only Prices look nice
7m $779US
9m $879US
10m $929US
12m $1029US
14m $1129US
Standard inflation add $70US per kite for E-Z Pump
Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush

QLD

876 posts

20 Sep 2007 12:52pm
quote:
US Kite Only Prices look nice
7m $779US
9m $879US
10m $929US
12m $1029US
14m $1129US
Standard inflation add $70US per kite for E-Z Pump



Add US$300 to the above prices for the bar. The pricing in AU$ is below complete with a bar. This is RRP in AU$. Add $90 for EZ PUMP


7m Complete $1,599.00
9m Complete $1,739.00
10m Complete $1,809.00
12m Complete $1,949.00
14m Complete $2,089.00
Kitepower Australia
20 Sep 2007 7:18pm
Demo Nemi 10M HP at Kitepower now.
Available at our demo weekend to be held at Dolls all weekend.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

PS Thanks Joe for getting the kite down to us in time!
Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush

QLD

876 posts

20 Sep 2007 9:54pm
No worries Steve. thanks for having us.

Joe
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