Rider: 70kg Int/adv
Style: Freeriding, Surf, Wake, Freestyle
Weather: 10kts to 35 kts
Build Quality: 9/10
Satisfaction: 10/10
Disclosure: Shop owner ...sell F-One,Best,Airush,Sling,Blade etc

My Comments: Have flown the 9m GP now 5 times from 10 kts to 35 kts and i will have to state that it's probably up there with the Best kite i've ever ridden (not a pimp). It handles amazing in all wind conditions and loops like crazy on short lines in it's high end , climbs awesome to the top of the window and trucks upwind. A magic unhooked feeling with pefect bar pressure , i rode easliy 100m unhooked and threw in 8 tricks then hooked back in. It totally sucks up the gusts due to it's Reflex Leading edge and is so refined that i flew upwind in 10 kts on a 138cm Hadlow and the kite didn't even backstall as other kites this size would just fall out the sky. The GP bar is super soft and it runs all the way to the outside tip which is comfy as for Fishpolling and passes. Relaunch is also quick.
Anyone thinking of progression and wants a super smoothe forgiving C Kite with everything you would look for this is the kite. Best have done an amazing job and i would even ride this kite in the waves i'ts that good! Once you demo one you will want one . Well done BEST . It's no wander Gisela is riding them.

10kts upwind?

Really ????
If anyone in WA would like to test the accuracy of the above claims pls give me a call. I can arrange demos for anyone keen to give it a crack.
Would love to see some more reviews posted by other serious 'C' kiters.
ph: 0430 966 937 - anytime.

I've talked to Charl about these kites and seen them in action. no problems on being a great kite but 10kts for a nine on a twintip is ridiculous. Thats raceboard and 17 stuff.

It leaves no room for next years model with improved bottom end

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easto said...
(not a pimp)

It totally sucks

i flew upwind in 10 kts on a 138cm Hadlow

See, you can say what you want to newbs, tell them a kite has a 20 knot wind range and all that, and let someone else clean up the mess when the newb believes you, but when you're trying to sell a performance kite to experienced riders I suspect that you'll do better by maintaining at least a modicum of realism in your reviews.

This kite has incredible bottom end and on a 138 at Scotty's body weight I can see how this could be plausible. Im 100kg and was riding the other day on my 11 GP in stupidly light winds. They are very efficient with little stalling in the turns so that you can keep good momentum.

Joe

Plausable I want proof a 9 even flies in 10 kts. Summer wind to boot!

Did you ever ride a 9m 2009 Best Nemi ?? exact same performance in light winds. If you know how to tune a kite and keep board speed it can be done with ease.
Have you tried this kite ? no , so don't throw your weight around until you do .I have been kiting 11 years and why would i pimp, i only sell to the locals in my town
not on the internet like other idiots.Red thumb as much as you like ...there were two kiters there watching ! i will have to post a vid ... as for the 17m with raceboard , i could stick a carton of xxxx on my board and still kick your ass with the GP. Give me your review puppet .

Post the video dude, not throwing any weight around. Just dont believe your 10kt claim! Don't think I'm the only one either.

No need for a pissing contest

I have been riding the GP 9m now for 2 weeks as i have been trying a few C kites after riding delta C kites for the past 5 years. I found the GP a very smooth and forgiving kite when passing and looping etc. I was trying another brand at the time and i can also vouch that i asked Charl for his advice aswell.
He was very honest with his advice and also did not knock anything that i aske. I am so impressed by the way this kite handles in light winds and also the gusty strong winds i have flown it in.

Last night i was still going up wind in 13knots as this kite yes is unreal in its low end. I could still create enough pop to land to blind and pass with ease.

Im stoked to be riding these kites and my confidence and performance has improved so much. Great work Best.
Dont knock any kite until you ride it yourself.

Just do a search for Sam Medysky the Canadian up and coming wakestyle ripper on the Best GP if you are keen on this kite.

He seems to know a little bit on how to to throw the GP around and land it.

Don't know about the 9m at 10 knots though when its rated at 16 - 30knots for a 75kg rider.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Carl Sagan

"70kg" "9m" "i flew upwind in 10 kts on a 138cm Hadlow"

Nobody is bagging the kite. People are rightly skeptical of the review.

I just want to say this kite really goes in 10knots, it's amazing. It's not bad in the waves aswell.

^^^^ I just want to say that a first post, with a pretty much blank profile in terms of location, affiliation etc. has kinda close to zero credibility. Sorry if you're legit, but that's how the interwebs work. Build credibility, then offer your perspective.

If, perchance, you're a double login, you'll get what's comin to ya.

If the 9m flies upwind in 10knots I wonder why they even make larger sizes, and why they don't make a 3m for the windy days, and why the best site doesn't even rate the 9m's range at less than 16 knots?

From what you are saying we can expect this kite to win all the light wind course racing events this year (even though it's a C). Offer some credible evidence, or let the podium do the talking.

no need to brand bash, just get in to your nearest Best dealer and try you will be surprised.

Sorry Scotty, I have to call BS on this one.

There is no way in hell that you weigh 70kgs even with all of your gear on.

Hey guys we should all know that top end and low end claims are always a bit unrealistic and over exaggerated.
10 knots is a bit skeptical but 12 - 14 for someone at 70kg dry on such a big board is believable for this kite.
I've taught a girl how to kite on these before in similar winds (everything was sub 15) on a 131 and she could get up and riding and hold enough power to keep up for long distances with out working the kite too much, these kites, like a lot of C kites, you can milk a lot of low end out once you just get board speed depower slightly and get forward momentum going.

Can't comment personally as i have a 9 13 combo and never like riding anything at the bottom of their ranges so always rigging up the biggest i can, but I have been caught out a few times (when i used to ride on a watson hybrid wakeboard of all things) on the 13 in 10 - 12 knots and i was surprised that i could get enough planing speed to get back to the beach. I could keep my ground in 16 - 17 on the 9m as well and even start popping decently at 18. Keep in mind that a wakeboard is a power pig and due to the excessive rocker makes keeping ground quite troublesome. I am confident i can get heaps better low end out of it now that i'm on a board that's significantly more efficient. I probably won't go out of my way to ruin a good session just to test this theory but i will say these kites have good low end for a C style kite when you learn how to ride a C properly.

Well said charl, and easto would only be 70kg when hes wet. I can back it up
as i was there the day he rode upwind in 10knots. The kites on the beach werent even flapping.
If you know how to tune a C kite and get board speed as he does you can fly anything.
As for you brendan bond aka djdojo if you think easto is a fake login in why dont you go to his website www.xtremekitepaddle.com.au and see how successful he has been over the years. One thing is not to slag, accuse and threaten people of things and when i went on to your profile and saw your website and noticed that you are meant to be a professional life coach perhaps take it into account when you paste and slag people on these forums.....if you are going to continue to act like a knob i suggest if you want to keep you profession professional take your website off your profile so you dont look like a clown!!
PS...GO TO YOUR LOCAL SHOP AND TRY THE GP....YOU WONT BE DISSAPOINTED!!

Think its time to let this topic die rather than turn it into a slagging match, Must of missed DJ slagging Easto, i thought it was Jstoke just stirring sh!t.

If the comments are read in context no one bags the kite only claims made.

Die damn topic!

Cheers for the backup Nick. My question was clearly about Jstoke, who has not been seen before or after this thread. And it was only a question, not an assumption. I even apologised in advance in case he was a legitimate poster. Jstoke is free to back up his claims and identity whenever he likes.

Littleretz, if you can find anywhere that I've actually, in your words "slagged, accused, or threatened" anyone, as opposed to asking valid questions about some claims, please present it accurately and clearly and I shall do what I can to make it right. If not, I'd appreciate it if you'd consider editing your last post.

Incidentally "what's comin" (my words) to double logins (Laurie can easily identify them) is simply a brief ban from the forum (see forum rules). Perhaps less regular participants, such as Jstoke, could construe this as a threat, but for those of us familiar with forum protocols in general, it's simply how participation is kept fair. It's happened several times in the years I've been a forum participant. It's no big deal, just potentially embarrassing for those involved.

Well despite all of the above, I continue to ride my GP each day and every session Im surprised at my ability to progress. I found myself stuck in for years and not able to progress further until this season on the GP. It works well for me, over and above all the other C kites I have tried this season.

Joe

dJdojo,

As you would know most people that make a fake login do it for a reason(to back themselves up, or slag someone off) which is a common thing on seabreeze, and we can quite quickly assume that someone with very little posts has a double login, but what if they are not? What if they are just a social member of seabreeze that spends more time reading than posting? How are you going to go about identifying them or accusing them( as you have done) with no real evidence, you are not the law or a administrator that can get these facts!

How can you obtain some evidence to work out wether or not you are right? I would check old posts and take these facts to the admin. Not try and be the Judge Jury and executioner all in one hit.

So going through past posts by the user It would suggest no links to Easto. It would point to another person that has posted on this thread, or it could be a friend of some one that has posted on this thread a wingman, i could not reach a definite conclusion. I think you need to get your facts right!!!

If i were you i would take down the link to your website!!

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djdojo said...

Cheers for the backup Nick. My question was clearly about Jstoke, who has not been seen before or after this thread. And it was only a question, not an assumption. I even apologised in advance in case he was a legitimate poster. Jstoke is free to back up his claims and identity whenever he likes.

Littleretz, if you can find anywhere that I've actually, in your words "slagged, accused, or threatened" anyone, as opposed to asking valid questions about some claims, please present it accurately and clearly and I shall do what I can to make it right. If not, I'd appreciate it if you'd consider editing your last post.

Incidentally "what's comin" (my words) to double logins (Laurie can easily identify them) is simply a brief ban from the forum (see forum rules). Perhaps less regular participants, such as Jstoke, could construe this as a threat, but for those of us familiar with forum protocols in general, it's simply how participation is kept fair. It's happened several times in the years I've been a forum participant. It's no big deal, just potentially embarrassing for those involved.

Geez people, I never linked anything to anyone, I never bagged the kite, I just disputed "flying upwind in 10 knots on a 9m C on a twinnie" and speculated that Jstoke may be a double, but never suggested of whom and apologised for the speculation in case he was not a double (though all the signs of doubleness were there).

Why so angry and defensive SA crew?

Laurie, would you like to do some mediating here?

Is this the type of BS you sell to your customers, that it is ok to speculate or accuse someone of anything you like as long as you apologise in advance??well just incase you are wrong that is

With the business you are in i think you know better than that.

I'm with djojo, seems very unrealistic to me.

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eppo said...

seems very unrealistic to me, but without knowing the exact details cannot dismiss the claims completely.

Well said eppo

Having put my case in terms as clear and simple as I can, I'll now retire from this one. Pick over the bones if you will.

LOL.

This has been a lot of fun.


but time for me to head back to the cave to which i have been banished.

Must be a nice cave to only make such a short trip out

Wow. Exciting in here. 3-poster jstoke was a bogus login & has been suspended (..and it was not easto)

I think it's fine to question the wind range of kites posted by others, but as usual it's all about "play the ball, not the man".

Folks seem to be focussing on the "10 knots" .. how many people can actually accurately measure wind speed from the water surface to within a knot? And if it's 10 knots, gusting to 15 knots .. that's a whole different world to 10 knots lulling to 7 knots.

Regards low wind performance, I'm always astonished by what a superiour rider can pull out of their kites & boards.

Experience & technique go a long way ... spotting wind shifts, board control, maintaining apparent wind.

One of the crew I kite with always flies 2m less kite due to his superiour skills. (Plus he's skint, so has no choice but to use his 7.5 .. necessity is the mother of good technique?)

bloody Iphone wind app's!!