OK on the look out for a new 10 mtr wave kite for 2013, must be super fast even when depowered, or sheeted out.

upto now tried the 10 mtr Ozone REO, Wainman 10.5 Punch and while both are ok not as fast as I would like, any thoughts out there ?

Caution new Spitfire looks good but non in AU, also BWS, RRD etc

any help would be great





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Rossall said...

OK on the look out for a new 10 mtr wave kite for 2013, must be super fast even when depowered, or sheeted out.

upto now tried the 10 mtr Ozone REO, Wainman 10.5 Punch and while both are ok not as fast as I would like, any thoughts out there ?

Caution new Spitfire looks good but non in AU, also BWS, RRD etc

any help would be great





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Hope the 10M Reo you tested was properly tuned? The rear lines should be on the last knot closest to the bar under the bar floats. Hard to imagine needing a faster turning, faster flying kite for kitesurfing waves?

Well if speed I presume you mean turning speed then a BWS needs to be taken well and truly off your list.

I'd suggest a LQ envy, also there are some great reviews about the drifter, and if you want a truly fast turning kite the 9m wave, but not a 10m.

You REO is bloody fast turning kite mate, good luck finding one that is as fast if you found it too slow.

Never flown Reo, (can't wait but...)

have flown brand new
Envy (5, 6, 8, 9, 12)
BWS (12, 10, 8, 6)
Switch Method 12m
Epic Renegade (9 & 11)
Cab Drifter (9, 11, 13)
Cab switchie (6m)
& old
Cab Convert 7m
Rev 1 & 2 (9s&11s)
Cab switchie 6m(2008)



Drifter is fastest and nimblest by a country mile. it's the only kite I never even looked at cause I was too busy shredding the place, wouldn't have a clue what it looks like in the sky! Honestly a hard kite to beat.
Not saying it's the best down the line kite as I'm more sk8 park style but for zip, it's the winner.

Airush WAVE...by far the fastest wave kite i've tried this year. Try and get on a demo.Will be sending the 9m Back that way soon.

Add an Ocean Rodeo Razor to ur list of kites to demo.
Welcom to try my 10m some time when im back home.

You need to get some Religion!

Seriously, RRD have been making the fastest wave kites for about 10 years, and this year's is no exception.

Disclaimer: TR

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Rossall said...

OK on the look out for a new 10 mtr wave kite for 2013, must be super fast even when depowered, or sheeted out.

upto now tried the 10 mtr Ozone REO, Wainman 10.5 Punch and while both are ok not as fast as I would like, any thoughts out there ?

Caution new Spitfire looks good but non in AU, also BWS, RRD etc

any help would be great





Rider: Weight,85 kg Level (advanced)
Style: Surf,
Weather: ?-? knots
Build Quality: ?/10
Satisfaction: ?/10
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My Comments:

Airush Flow all they waaaaay bro..

Get some religion.

I dont think you will find a kite that is superfast when sheeted out or depowerd, when the steering lines go slack, the kite wont steer so fast any more, this applies to any kite. you just have to change down to a smaller size, waveriding with a totaly depowerd kite just doesnt work so well appart from that all kites mentioned are fairly fast.
If you are up at kite stock there will be a range of kites to try.
I personally am using a wave kite that has power and is very fast at the same time, so lets me get away with a smaller size kite.
At 95kgs I have been on a 6m kite 70% of this summer and 8m the rest of the days in WA with an 11m out maybe twice

Ide agree most kites dont perform properly fully depowered, and not all kites have the same power good example 8mtr this years RPM is probably as powerful as the 10mtr RIO and the 10mrt BANDIT 6 has way more bottom end than both of them .
Still if you want a kite that turns when your riding towards it on a wave ,try the Bandit ,RPM , Veagas or perhaps Neo ,but in each kite if you want to compare turning and power range you may need slightly different sizes
George

Bandit 6

Try one, and then you will buy one,


had them for 2.5 years , 5 and 6, only dropped it due to my error , it has never fallen through slack lines or catching it down fast waves, turns when the lines are slack, ride it blindfolded, ive tried rally's , RMP's . Trx, park, not tried reo but heard the bottom end is crap, not good for Sydney but wouldn't be a problem where the wind blows and they certainly look fantastic in the sky; ozone CAT also looks fantastic this year. F one or ozone for me = reputation, build and after buy service is the best from these 2 brands, forget SS they lost it years ago, (I had them for 8 years and tried every kite they made).

Try before you buy, the guys at adventure sports will sort you out with demos

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Adventure Sports Noosa said...
Ide agree most kites dont perform properly fully depowered, and not all kites have the same power good example 8mtr this years RPM is probably as powerful as the 10mtr RIO and the 10mrt BANDIT 6 has way more bottom end than both of them .
Still if you want a kite that turns when your riding towards it on a wave ,try the Bandit ,RPM , Veagas or perhaps Neo ,but in each kite if you want to compare turning and power range you may need slightly different sizes
George

Thats not our experience at all George, they are actually similar in bottom end, but the Reo is so much quicker and more efficient. The Reo can be worked on a surfboard to give excellent bottom end, upwind is incredible and ability to link top and bottom turns.

Firstly, you can use a good size smaller BWS kite in comparison to most other kites, so in practice a BWS isnt that slow at all.

Second comment I'd like to make. If you feel the need for a faster kite for waveriding, you could also consider to slow down your riding speed.
Adjust to the speed of the wave and there is hardly any need for steering the kite.

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Kitepower Australia said...

Adventure Sports Noosa said...
Ide agree most kites dont perform properly fully depowered, and not all kites have the same power good example 8mtr this years RPM is probably as powerful as the 10mtr RIO and the 10mrt BANDIT 6 has way more bottom end than both of them .
Still if you want a kite that turns when your riding towards it on a wave ,try the Bandit ,RPM , Veagas or perhaps Neo ,but in each kite if you want to compare turning and power range you may need slightly different sizes
George

Thats not our experience at all George, they are actually similar in bottom end, but the Reo is so much quicker and more efficient. The Reo can be worked on a surfboard to give excellent bottom end, upwind is incredible and ability to link top and bottom turns.

Agree with George, bottom end is not the Reo's strong point IMO.

Reo is a great kite and I would be happy to own one, it is pretty fast turning and I can't see why you would need any quicker.

You can definitely work them to get some apparent wind happening however I know of a 9mtr kite that I'm sure will beat it for bottom end/upwind and a 7 that would go mighty close, metre for metre not all kites are the same power.

I'm pretty sure the 8 BWS would match it as well.

I was impressed with the little go I had on the Ocean Rodeo Razor (nice and fast) and the Kite Factory kites that SQ is riding, would love to have another go on them but top of the list for me to try next is the Airush Wave, I really like the look of that kite.

I have tried some of the recent wave kites from the big brands, Religion, Drifter, Wave, Lithium, Envy, Wainman, Cabo.....

My favourites were the Wave and Religion both fast turning and good bar pressure plus obviously drift very well. Wave has a bit more of an all round performance and has more jumping ability than the Religion. The Airush /lithium and also the One are very good as well, very good drift and fast turns, on/off power so you can dump it, light bar pressure. Envy is also good and very solid in the sky, perfect in the smaller sizes in strong winds, super solid build so a bit heavier which can hinder it in the lighter winds.

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Kitepower Australia said...

Adventure Sports Noosa said...
Ide agree most kites dont perform properly fully depowered, and not all kites have the same power good example 8mtr this years RPM is probably as powerful as the 10mtr RIO and the 10mrt BANDIT 6 has way more bottom end than both of them .
Still if you want a kite that turns when your riding towards it on a wave ,try the Bandit ,RPM , Veagas or perhaps Neo ,but in each kite if you want to compare turning and power range you may need slightly different sizes
George

Thats not our experience at all George, they are actually similar in bottom end, but the Reo is so much quicker and more efficient. The Reo can be worked on a surfboard to give excellent bottom end, upwind is incredible and ability to link top and bottom turns.

Agree with George, bottom end is not the Reo's strong point IMO.

Reo is a great kite and I would be happy to own one, it is pretty fast turning and I can't see why you would need any quicker.

You can definitely work them to get some apparent wind happening however I know of a 9mtr kite that I'm sure will beat it for bottom end/upwind and a 7 that would go mighty close, metre for metre not all kites are the same power.

I'm pretty sure the 8 BWS would match it as well.

I was impressed with the little go I had on the Ocean Rodeo Razor (nice and fast) and the Kite Factory kites that SQ is riding, would love to have another go on them but top of the list for me to try next is the Airush Wave, I really like the look of that kite.

Well I actually own both kites, RPM 2013 10M and Reo 2013 10M, and I have flown both, although not back to back yet. Pretty confident to say that there is not much difference in bottom end and in fact I reckon I can get more out of the Reo.
Anyway, each kite has a wind range. I think the RPM is a great kite - in its wind range, so is the Reo. I'm not a fan of the BWS design and I have flown recent version.
Everyone knows the BWS sizing is a bit out of whack with other brands in the market, but that does not make it a good or bad kite, it just means the kite has a wind range thats a bit lower per size printed on the side compared to most other kites.

I never talk about bottom end of a kite unless I'm comparing say this years model of a kite compared to last years. Seems pointless to compare bottom or top end of a kite and define that as a quality that makes that kite good or bad.
Everyone that kites regularly needs more than one kite no matter what the brand, when their BWS, Ozone, Airush, Slingshot, Naish or North kite gets too small for the conditions time to go up a size, and vice versa.

North Neo is becoming a possible contender as well, but need to fly one