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Created by Wiski23 Wiski23  > 9 months ago, 16 Nov 2014
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Wiski23
Wiski23

37 posts

16 Nov 2014 7:58pm
hi, I can do unhooked raleys and s-bends are in progress, my main issue is when kiting in heavy winds or gusty conditions and I bang out a raley on occasions I go flying through the air dangling from the kite unhooked. Then I eat sh"t on the way down.Like an uncontrolled boost. Why? It's bloody frustrating because it's killing my confidence to unhook in anything over 15-18 knots.
am I possible sending the kite, even though I'm holding both hands at centre of bar??? At the same time I watch more experienced riders unhook with the same size kite in same conditions and they seem fine. Even when they unhook with their kites towards 11 on gusty days...Sigh.... Any info would be great guys.
Did anyone else have these kook outs to start with? S-bends seem fine.
Rails
Rails

QLD

1371 posts

17 Nov 2014 6:58am
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Wiski23 said..
hi, I can do unhooked raleys and s-bends are in progress, my main issue is when kiting in heavy winds or gusty conditions and I bang out a raley on occasions I go flying through the air dangling from the kite unhooked. Then I eat sh"t on the way down.Like an uncontrolled boost. Why? It's bloody frustrating because it's killing my confidence to unhook in anything over 15-18 knots.
am I possible sending the kite, even though I'm holding both hands at centre of bar??? At the same time I watch more experienced riders unhook with the same size kite in same conditions and they seem fine. Even when they unhook with their kites towards 11 on gusty days...Sigh.... Any info would be great guys.
Did anyone else have these kook outs to start with? S-bends seem fine.


Sounds like you are sending the kite, I used to get the dangles when i started unhooking
keep the kite a bit lower and pull a bit more on front hand
kemp90
kemp90

QLD

1694 posts

17 Nov 2014 10:13am
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Rails said..

Wiski23 said..
hi, I can do unhooked raleys and s-bends are in progress, my main issue is when kiting in heavy winds or gusty conditions and I bang out a raley on occasions I go flying through the air dangling from the kite unhooked. Then I eat sh"t on the way down.Like an uncontrolled boost. Why? It's bloody frustrating because it's killing my confidence to unhook in anything over 15-18 knots.
am I possible sending the kite, even though I'm holding both hands at centre of bar??? At the same time I watch more experienced riders unhook with the same size kite in same conditions and they seem fine. Even when they unhook with their kites towards 11 on gusty days...Sigh.... Any info would be great guys.
Did anyone else have these kook outs to start with? S-bends seem fine.



Sounds like you are sending the kite, I used to get the dangles when i started unhooking
keep the kite a bit lower and pull a bit more on front hand


for sure bro! your kite is too high. if I have my kite at 11 im going to be dangling for days. if im unhooking I never have my kite above 45!
Wiski23
Wiski23

37 posts

17 Nov 2014 9:03am
Cheers guys! Will concentrate on keeping the kite lower and that front hand!
Thought as much as my s-bends i dont have this problem.
Much appreciated
NickT
NickT

WA

1094 posts

17 Nov 2014 12:01pm
Are you splitting the lines with your back hand?
Wiski23
Wiski23

37 posts

17 Nov 2014 7:20pm
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NickT said...
Are you splitting the lines with your back hand?


Not sure sorry? Do you mean running the lines through my back hand fingers? If so thats a great idea man!
NickT
NickT

WA

1094 posts

18 Nov 2014 11:33pm
Exactly, helps keep the kite down. Split the center lines with your index and middle finger.
Trapped
Trapped

NSW

220 posts

19 Nov 2014 8:23am
Does someone have a photo or a video that demonstrates 'splitting the lines'
I have no idea what you're talking about but it seems to be needed.
kitcho207
kitcho207

NSW

865 posts

19 Nov 2014 10:13am
hey, just means holding the bar right in the middle with one hand. 2 fingers on either side of the depower line.
makes sure the is no turning of the kite and it sits parked when you jump.
Drury
Drury

NSW

502 posts

19 Nov 2014 11:21am



Drury
Drury

NSW

502 posts

19 Nov 2014 11:23am
Most people think their kite is low when they first start doing unhooked tricks but in reality it is around 11 or 1 o'clock depending on which tack you're on. You want it at 45 degrees or lower ideally. If you can't get off the water with your kite lower then you need to go back to basics and start working on your pop again. See how you go with the crossed fingers and the lower kite and report back
azza86
azza86

QLD

57 posts

19 Nov 2014 10:24am
Nice tip thanks
Wiski23
Wiski23

37 posts

9 Dec 2014 5:37pm
So splitting the lines has definitely helped with my raleys, no more floating through the air and much better on keeping the kite parked.
Took a bit of getting use to unhooking thou, I kept missing the unhook off the bar.

Now my next issue (I know ride boots) I can't keep my board on my feet when throwing an s-bend. Bloody frustrating. Gonna try to find some heal straps...

Also on occasions im not getting in the full rotation. I've been told to park my kite higher to give me more time, but I read it's easier if it's lower so you don't get pulled of axis and helps to initiate the spin.... Hmmm
kemp90
kemp90

QLD

1694 posts

9 Dec 2014 8:32pm
Haha I just realized I follow you on instagram!
Wallis1986
Wallis1986

QLD

130 posts

10 Dec 2014 12:48pm
I had to stop doing sbends because my back foot would come out 3/4 of the time and was annoying the **** out of me, all because my good footsraps broke and i replaced them with cheap ebay jobs. So id say either hunt down some really good fitting footsraps or get some boots. Ive just got some boots havnt got a chance to try them yet. Try learning raley to blinds if u cant already, easy move to keep the feet in.
kemp90
kemp90

QLD

1694 posts

10 Dec 2014 1:24pm
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Wallis1986 said...
I had to stop doing sbends because my back foot would come out 3/4 of the time and was annoying the **** out of me, all because my good footsraps broke and i replaced them with cheap ebay jobs. So id say either hunt down some really good fitting footsraps or get some boots. Ive just got some boots havnt got a chance to try them yet. Try learning raley to blinds if u cant already, easy move to keep the feet in.


I no the Nash apex are an amazing binding, not that I would ever use foot pads agen!
Wallis1986
Wallis1986

QLD

130 posts

10 Dec 2014 2:58pm
kemp90 how have you found relaunching in boots? Sometime when the wingtip has water on it, it seems like it would be impossible to relaunch without getting out of the boots and walking towards it. Also sometime when i crash i loop the kite to stop it crashing while it skulldrags me, i assume this wont work anymore as the board will stop me moving and stretch me or rip the hadle out of my hands?
tomme
tomme

VIC

475 posts

10 Dec 2014 4:49pm
are you riding a 5 line kite??? if so pull the **** out of the 5th line then slowly pull to one side...i sucked at this untill recently,

obvious as heck but took me ages to really understand.
Wallis1986
Wallis1986

QLD

130 posts

10 Dec 2014 3:55pm
yeh 5 line vegas. ive been pulling the center lines in 1 armfull then let go, should i pull it even further?
pedleym
pedleym

WA

168 posts

14 Dec 2014 11:02pm
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Now my next issue (I know ride boots) I can't keep my board on my feet when throwing an s-bend. Bloody frustrating. Gonna try to find some heal straps...




bodyboard wax on the foot pads
glasstraxx
glasstraxx

WA

321 posts

15 Dec 2014 11:01am
i was practising raileys last night for the first time and I notice that wen i was bearing off down wind and unhooking I was putting too much pressure on my back hand during the unhook and carving part which sent the kite causing me to dangle . More front hand pressure fixed this...

Also can def vouch for naish apex pads they are awesome!
kemp90
kemp90

QLD

1694 posts

15 Dec 2014 1:35pm
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Wallis1986 said...
kemp90 how have you found relaunching in boots? Sometime when the wingtip has water on it, it seems like it would be impossible to relaunch without getting out of the boots and walking towards it. Also sometime when i crash i loop the kite to stop it crashing while it skulldrags me, i assume this wont work anymore as the board will stop me moving and stretch me or rip the hadle out of my hands?


Yeh man i dont have this problem cause I use a 5th. Pull it enough so it rolls and pull a stearing line. It kind of look like a sail on a boat. I find I have to pull alot more 5th on my 13 then I do on my 9 but it's a really easy technique
Wallis1986
Wallis1986

QLD

130 posts

15 Dec 2014 6:58pm
Cool thanks Kemp90 should help allot. Also do you pull just the fifth line or pull the whole center lines as in all 3. Ive been pulling the whole center lines.
kemp90
kemp90

QLD

1694 posts

15 Dec 2014 9:16pm
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Wallis1986 said...
Cool thanks Kemp90 should help allot. Also do you pull just the fifth line or pull the whole center lines as in all 3. Ive been pulling the whole center lines.


Just that middle 1 bro. Took me a little wile to figure it out also. Its a real pain somtimes when you don't have you donkey dick in and the loop falls off the hook! That happens to me so friking much!
Wiski23
Wiski23

37 posts

16 Dec 2014 6:02pm
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kemp90 said..
Haha I just realized I follow you on instagram!


Lol me? Do I follow you back?
kemp90
kemp90

QLD

1694 posts

16 Dec 2014 8:25pm
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Wiski23 said...
kemp90 said..
Haha I just realized I follow you on instagram!


Lol me? Do I follow you back?


Yeh bro I'm elliot.b.kite
tomme
tomme

VIC

475 posts

17 Dec 2014 4:57pm
For what its worth... get some boots, i broke my leg on an S-bend gone bad in straps, i now have 7 inch of steel and 9 screws in my leg and had to relearn to walk.

can tell you that was wayy more time pain and money than a set of boots.
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