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Good Beginner- Intermediate Twintip

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Jukesy
Jukesy

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127 posts

15 Apr 2015 8:44pm
Hello just wondering what are some good twin-tips that are suitable for a beginner that will allow me to progress through to an intermediate?

p.s If you're selling any of these boards, private message me please.


Cheers, Jukesy
Efilnikufesin
Efilnikufesin

QLD

135 posts

15 Apr 2015 8:53pm
I am a beginner , bought a naish Hero as recommended by my local shop , nice and stable board that will see me through for some time yet .
Jukesy
Jukesy

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127 posts

15 Apr 2015 8:56pm
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Efilnikufesin said..
I am a beginner , bought a naish Hero as recommended by my local shop , nice and stable board that will see me through for some time yet .


Sweet, I'll check it out.
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy

633 posts

15 Apr 2015 7:12pm
Shinn Red or Monk.

The attributes that make them good are just as useful for beginners as for advanced riders.
flyingcab
flyingcab

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15 Apr 2015 10:59pm
Anything that is in reasonable condition around 134-140cm should be good for you.
You won't notice any benefits of channels/weight/rocker/flex.
Just make sure you have around 15mm fins, maybe more if you have more chop, and that setup should see you through till you start unhooking
flyingcab
flyingcab

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15 Apr 2015 11:01pm
Oh and make sure the bolts to attach the straps are all in the centre, that way you can rotate your board so the heel edge doesn't get 100% rekt
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy

633 posts

16 Apr 2015 7:22pm
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flyingcab said..
Oh and make sure the bolts to attach the straps are all in the centre, that way you can rotate your board so the heel edge doesn't get 100% rekt


Or alternatively buy a better board with an asymmetrical shape that makes it easier to ride toe side?

I started with a Best Plug board. It was ...... adequate..... The kindest thing I can say about it is that it really made me work at the fine balance of edging, too much edge and the board would start bouncing along, too little and it would slide. In reality it probably held me back by a couple of months as the very basic design just added an extra issue to overcome. The day I tried a mates board (Monk) was my biggest level of progression in a single day I had. Don't just buy something cheap.
flyingcab
flyingcab

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16 Apr 2015 11:37pm
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Jukesy said..
Hello just wondering what are some good twin-tips that ...




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weebitbreezy said..

... buy a better board with an asymmetrical shape that makes it easier to ride toe side?




Good joke

Anyways for a better understanding I mean get a board with inserts like this:


Rather than this:



Means you get a lot more wear out of the board because you can spin your straps around and get a fresh heel side edge




Shredsled94
Shredsled94

WA

15 posts

17 Apr 2015 12:13am
Just be a little bit careful. Most boards with inline screws or tracks are very rockered out wakestyle boards. They can be a bit of a handful to stay upwind on for a beginner, especially if your not lit :) On the plus side... It might suck at first, but will teach you to be really proficient upwind. So could be a bonus I guess.
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy

633 posts

17 Apr 2015 1:20am
Uh huh. More being facetious than a pure joke. Look at the profile of this board.
Different profile on the heelside edge compared to the toeside edge. Maybe it will turn out to be a fad and people will look back and laugh about the time when kiters were stronger heel side compared to toe side but whether psychosomatic or not, it seems to make things easier (and I need every advantage I can get - I'm that bad)







Swavek
Swavek

WA

396 posts

17 Apr 2015 1:51pm
I suggest a light wind board that will make learning easy and that you can keep once you learn. Every time you buy and sell you loose a bit of money, quite a bit if you buy new.

I have 2013 153 x 46 North Spike which I like, although seen some people bagging it as a poor option for light wind (although North Spike Textreme is supposedly much better). Shinn King Gee is another light wind board that some really like as a light wind option.

I guess no point taking boards for 'demo' if you can't ride yet - you will not be able to tell what is good what is not. Just need to do your own research - opinion of a well seasoned kiter who tried lots of light wind boards is best (I have not tried many boards, and I am not well-seasoned yet to advise you).
flyingcab
flyingcab

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18 Apr 2015 12:44am
Seriously just buy a wake style board that suits you.
your a kid, it will take max 1 month to get better than half the lawnmowers at your local.
No point buying a 153cm board that you will hate the moment you stop mowing lawn
In all seriousness there is a video of people riding all sorts of things, eski lids, inflatable beds etc. As long as its rigid and has a straight edge its fine (within reason)
Swavek
Swavek

WA

396 posts

18 Apr 2015 5:14pm
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flyingcab said..
Seriously just buy a wake style board that suits you.
your a kid, it will take max 1 month to get better than half the lawnmowers at your local.
No point buying a 153cm board that you will hate the moment you stop mowing lawn
In all seriousness there is a video of people riding all sorts of things, eski lids, inflatable beds etc. As long as its rigid and has a straight edge its fine (within reason)


Yes, it is more fun to use a short board, yet again and again I find my 153 cm board useful:

Learning - so much easier to learn on a big board, some get discouraged and quit as they are frustrated not being able to get going

The wind dies out and you are not able to go on your favourite short board. Inflate another kite? Easier to grab your low wind board (especially if you dont have much time left)

it was meant to blow, but it doesnt. You are not able to get going even on your biggest kite. What is better, pack and go home, or a lawn mowing session with small jumps? I will take easy session over no session any day .....

Jukesy
Jukesy

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127 posts

18 Apr 2015 8:33pm
I have a 132, used it a few times and doesn't seem too hard.
tomme
tomme

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18 Apr 2015 8:53pm
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I have a 132, used it a few times and doesn't seem too hard.


then whats the reason to spend more?

Most people can ride and progress on anything, it is not about having mutiple boards. It is about hours on the water, go and watch old videos of marc jacobs he couldn't afford a board for a year so just flew his kite on the beach non stop. he has- in my view some of the best kite control out of anyone. practice, fall over, get back up and learn.
Jukesy
Jukesy

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127 posts

18 Apr 2015 9:16pm
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then whats the reason to spend more?

Most people can ride and progress on anything, it is not about having mutiple boards. It is about hours on the water, go and watch old videos of marc jacobs he couldn't afford a board for a year so just flew his kite on the beach non stop. he has- in my view some of the best kite control out of anyone. practice, fall over, get back up and learn.


On the board I have the foot straps are extremely tight and aren't adjustable. I cannot get my feet in.
Swavek
Swavek

WA

396 posts

18 Apr 2015 9:05pm
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Jukesy said..
I have a 132, used it a few times and doesn't seem too hard.


Well, in that case you are not really a beginner. I am 100 kg and love my Shinn Dundee 135 x 44. You coud go for smaller size depending on your weight. The pads are really comfy, it eats chop, hardly any splash, smooth do it all board. People rave about their other boards -most notably Shinn Monk, Shinn Red, you can read about them, plenty of happy customers.
nycrew
nycrew

NSW

13 posts

21 Apr 2015 12:06am
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flyingcab said..
Anything that is in reasonable condition around 134-140cm should be good for you.
You won't notice any benefits of channels/weight/rocker/flex.
Just make sure you have around 15mm fins, maybe more if you have more chop, and that setup should see you through till you start unhooking


I have been wondering the same thing about beginner boards....what size to get....60 kg with 8m kite....ppl have told me range from 132-140...that's a big range...but as jukesy has said would like to grow into it.
gkawo
gkawo

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193 posts

21 Apr 2015 7:40am
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Jukesy said..

tomme said..



then whats the reason to spend more?

Most people can ride and progress on anything, it is not about having mutiple boards. It is about hours on the water, go and watch old videos of marc jacobs he couldn't afford a board for a year so just flew his kite on the beach non stop. he has- in my view some of the best kite control out of anyone. practice, fall over, get back up and learn.



On the board I have the foot straps are extremely tight and aren't adjustable. I cannot get my feet in.


Mate, if you can't even get your feet into them, then what are you doing!? Get to your local shop and see what they say. Or simply replace the straps entirely. Check out gumtree, ebay and here. There are replacement pads for around $50
Jukesy
Jukesy

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127 posts

21 Apr 2015 4:49pm
Yeah I'm going to the shop this weekend as the plug from my leading edge came out and I lost it in the surf. I'll bring the board in and see what they say.
Jukesy
Jukesy

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21 Apr 2015 6:10pm
Also how tight should the foot straps be?
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy

633 posts

21 Apr 2015 9:03pm
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Jukesy said..
Also how tight should the foot straps be?


Tight enough so you get a good connection to the board and loose enough so you don't restrict the blood flow. Its a bit of a preference thing. Beginners often prefer a looser fit as they get used to getting the board on their feet. Most people prefer a good dealer tighter when you start jumping.

First time with a new board I'll generally do them up nice and snug on the beach with my feet in them as for me that works out about right once the bindings get wet. I think its normal to need to spend a few runs adjusting the tension till you get them dialled in.
edugp
edugp

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33 posts

22 Apr 2015 12:35am
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weebitbreezy said..
Shinn Red or Monk.

The attributes that make them good are just as useful for beginners as for advanced riders.


+1
Jukesy
Jukesy

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127 posts

22 Apr 2015 5:42pm
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weebitbreezy said...
Jukesy said..
Also how tight should the foot straps be?


Tight enough so you get a good connection to the board and loose enough so you don't restrict the blood flow. Its a bit of a preference thing. Beginners often prefer a looser fit as they get used to getting the board on their feet. Most people prefer a good dealer tighter when you start jumping.

First time with a new board I'll generally do them up nice and snug on the beach with my feet in them as for me that works out about right once the bindings get wet. I think its normal to need to spend a few runs adjusting the tension till you get them dialled in.


Should it be loose enough that I can get my feet in without using my hands?
flyingcab
flyingcab

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22 Apr 2015 5:52pm
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Should it be loose enough that I can get my feet in without using my hands?



No hands on sand, but hands required if you are sitting in the water
Also don't go trusting people who only suggest 1 brand. Chances are they have a deal going on or they have never tried anything else.
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy

633 posts

22 Apr 2015 5:34pm
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Also don't go trusting people who only suggest 1 brand. Chances are they have a deal going on or they have never tried anything else.



I think this might be a little paranoid.

I think its perfectly normal that someone will suggest only the best version of something that they have tried. Why would you suggest what you believe to be an inferior product? I think most people would also say its bad form to quantify a recommendation with a bunch of trash talking about other brands: 'You should get X because Y and Z suck monkey balls' isn't necessarily more helpful than 'Demo X. Its really good'

Looking at the flipside of your idea, you might also suggest that people recommending a wide range of brands may not have spent long enough testing them to get to know the pros and cons?
speedy87
speedy87

VIC

110 posts

15 May 2015 8:46pm
Review the cabrihna spectrum awesome board.i got a 140x42 if ur interested 2015
Rails
Rails

QLD

1371 posts

16 May 2015 12:12am
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Jukesy said..

weebitbreezy said...

Jukesy said..
Also how tight should the foot straps be?



Tight enough so you get a good connection to the board and loose enough so you don't restrict the blood flow. Its a bit of a preference thing. Beginners often prefer a looser fit as they get used to getting the board on their feet. Most people prefer a good dealer tighter when you start jumping.

First time with a new board I'll generally do them up nice and snug on the beach with my feet in them as for me that works out about right once the bindings get wet. I think its normal to need to spend a few runs adjusting the tension till you get them dialled in.



Should it be loose enough that I can get my feet in without using my hands?


Yes
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