Bigger board or bigger kite for light winds

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montoya
montoya
VIC
32 posts
VIC, 32 posts
29 Jan 2011 1:24pm
Hi guys,

I'd like to get out in lighter winds. E.g. 11-16 knots around Melb

I'm new to kiteboarding (first season). Have two kites. 10.5m and 12m Naish Cults. Nobile 555 board (132x41). I weigh 70kg.

Should I sell my 12mt kite and get a bigger one (e.g. 13m low profile kite) or get a bigger/ light wind board? I'd appreciate you thougts

Monty.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
29 Jan 2011 2:23pm
I prefer the second board for the simple reason that if the wind picks up, its easier to switch than to pump a new kite.

I carry two board (134x40 and 140x43) and a 12/8 combo and that covers me for 99% of the wind in Melbourne. If the wind is light, I'll throw both on the beach and come back and fetch the smaller one if it picks up. I'd only get a specialised light wind kite if I had money to blow.

Also bare in mind that this season has been terrible. Its not normal to have this much light wind.
DaGodfather
DaGodfather
SA
280 posts
SA, 280 posts
29 Jan 2011 3:23pm
^^^^ what he said. Or you may be able to use what you already have once you have a bit more experience. My son is about your weight and he uses similar equipment - 11m kite and 133x41 board. This video was recorded in about 12 knots of wind in winter last year - back then he had about 6 months of kiting experience:





1adsy
1adsy
WA
14 posts
WA, 14 posts
29 Jan 2011 1:29pm
yea looks great but whats with the music ???
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
29 Jan 2011 5:48pm
Not wishing to highjack the thread but nice to see newbees not afraid to post their movies. Looking forward to the next instalment when skills improve and the stoke continues to grow.
DaGodfather
DaGodfather
SA
280 posts
SA, 280 posts
29 Jan 2011 5:29pm
KIT33R said...

Not wishing to highjack the thread but nice to see newbees not afraid to post their movies. Looking forward to the next instalment when skills improve and the stoke continues to grow.



.... about three months later with somewhat improved skills... (and music too):





1adsy
1adsy
WA
14 posts
WA, 14 posts
29 Jan 2011 3:06pm
now you're talking DaGod

I can only dream of having his skills after 9 months .
music is improving
Paradox
Paradox
QLD
1326 posts
QLD, 1326 posts
31 Jan 2011 11:16am
montoya said...

Hi guys,

I'd like to get out in lighter winds. E.g. 11-16 knots around Melb

I'm new to kiteboarding (first season). Have two kites. 10.5m and 12m Naish Cults. Nobile 555 board (132x41). I weigh 70kg.

Should I sell my 12mt kite and get a bigger one (e.g. 13m low profile kite) or get a bigger/ light wind board? I'd appreciate you thougts

Monty.


Monty, at 70kg's and a 12m kite, you should be able to kite in that range easily with the right board, and not a boat either.

The problem with light wind kiting is that larger kites have rapidly diminishing returns. Larger is heavier and turns slower. It also becomes problematic relaunching.

I am pushing 100kg's and the biggest kite I would ever go is something like a 13m Lithium LW. This kite paired with an Airush Sector or similar would have me going at 10kts. possibly less.
doolz
doolz
SA
127 posts
SA, 127 posts
31 Jan 2011 12:42pm
Monty keep your kites and go for a new board i just got a skimboard for light winds they are super fun to ride and good for your strapless skills hope this helps
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
31 Jan 2011 2:24pm
At your weight a 12 should get you going pretty early, as you get more proficient you are able to get going in less wind. Get youself a surf or skim for lighter days.
You dont have much range between your kites though I am guessing at your weight you would not be kiting in anything over 25 (maybe less). I would get rid of your 10.5 and get a 9 (unless your planning three kites) as this will keep you kiting longer once the wind gets stronger.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
31 Jan 2011 7:15pm
Wow! Much improved skill in only 3 months from previous video.
Can I suggest working on style, now that you've mastered the basics. Hands closer to the centre of the bar when cruising, only move a hand when necessary. Pull in the bum a bit. Kite a bit lower will help with edging.
Not sure about the Vader visor.
Can't wait for the next installment. It's good to have a time line to look back on.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
31 Jan 2011 8:44pm
Definitely a bigger board, but more importantly, the board has to be flat. Rocker is slow. My light wind board is a 135x48cm twintip. It has minimal rocker. The prototype was a plywood board with no rocker at all. It was great but heavy.

Don't be tempted to go for a surfboard. The big fins and rocker make them slow and not at all good in light winds. Also, the added difficulty of gybing them makes them not good when you are struggling to keep your kite up and go upwind.

Similarly, avoid race boards. Too big. Too expensive. Too fragile. Too hard to ride. The do get you going upwind early but they don't really get you out in lighter wind.

I don't know about your Naish kites. I have had Switchblades in the past and I could be riding upwind and jumping while North Rebels of the same size could not get off the beach. I guess the kite can make a difference but I don't know how to measure it.

The other important thing is to learn how to trim your kite. Riding in lighter wind is an acquired skill. Most people ride with their kites half stalled and that is very inefficient.
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
31 Jan 2011 11:05pm
Similar discussion from a few weeks ago:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Review/Bigger-board-or-bigger-kite-for-light-winds/
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