Thanks Lance, bit limited with demo options up here, but might try one next time im in WA. currently have flows and like 'em but dont have much comparative experience (only kites iv'e ever used..

) Am really still at the point where I wouldn't know a good kite if it bit me on the ass, and am really just looking for a smaller kite i can use on hols etc where there is more wind than here, that i wont grow out of as i progress...

cheers

T