scammer???

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surforkite
surforkite
NSW
153 posts
NSW, 153 posts
6 Nov 2021 6:54am
who is "Zionzy" selling a 2020 switchblade with bar for $750.
contacted the guy saying ide purchase with secure payment but of course no reply.
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1613 posts
WA, 1613 posts
6 Nov 2021 6:10am
Yes, definitely a scam here: www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Kitesurfing-Kites/~4387h/2020-Cabrinha-Switchblade-12-metre.aspx

Here is how you can tell.

Download the images of the ad and upload them through Google image search www.google.com/imghp?hl=en by clicking the camera button.

All the images return the same ads from buy and sell kitesurfing Facebook groups in Europe. Here is an example:




Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
6 Nov 2021 12:36pm
Don't you have to pay to upload photos? And what's wrong with posting on multiple platforms?
SimonM
SimonM
WA
126 posts
WA, 126 posts
6 Nov 2021 12:20pm
One of my mates just 'purchased' that, and it's 'on it's way'... So I guess we'll see soon enough ... . Anyone else? Be honest haha
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
6 Nov 2021 4:01pm
Yeah gotta be a scam,
no one would pay that much for a cabrinha.
Peahi
Peahi
VIC
1485 posts
VIC, 1485 posts
6 Nov 2021 9:30pm
Kamikuza said..
Don't you have to pay to upload photos? And what's wrong with posting on multiple platforms?


Well they could sell it multiple times too, joined SB in Nov 2021 another red flag.
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1613 posts
WA, 1613 posts
6 Nov 2021 7:02pm
Peahi said..

Kamikuza said..
Don't you have to pay to upload photos? And what's wrong with posting on multiple platforms?



Well they could sell it multiple times too, joined SB in Nov 2021 another red flag.


exactly
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1613 posts
WA, 1613 posts
7 Nov 2021 6:10am
Kamikuza said..
Don't you have to pay to upload photos? And what's wrong with posting on multiple platforms?


c.ikitesurf.com/classifieds/71252

The same kite, exact same pictures, for sale in Georgia USA...
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
7 Nov 2021 7:24pm
Peahi said..

Kamikuza said..
Don't you have to pay to upload photos? And what's wrong with posting on multiple platforms?



Well they could sell it multiple times too, joined SB in Nov 2021 another red flag.


Joined up to sell it. Still don't see the issue -- pretty tough settling used gear these days -- but I agree I'd want a secure payment option.

Does anyone actually ship from the US though? All but a couple of times I've tried to buy used from the US they've informed me that I'm "too far away". Bitch, you go to the Post office regardless of if it's the next state or the other side of the world.
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
7 Nov 2021 7:52pm
cbulota said..

Kamikuza said..
Don't you have to pay to upload photos? And what's wrong with posting on multiple platforms?



c.ikitesurf.com/classifieds/71252

The same kite, exact same pictures, for sale in Georgia USA...


Still leaning towards casting a wide net.

I've had great deals from genuinely nice guys that nobody in the forum knows, and I've had known shops with high post counts send "great condition" gear that's been flogged to death and had holes in that were never mentioned.

So my red flag tolerance might be a bit more .... tolerant than yours
Seabreeze
Seabreeze
SA
3536 posts
SA, 3536 posts
8 Nov 2021 12:15pm
Hey All,

We shut this down on the weekend, and another one too .. possibly same person. It's rare, been some time since we've had a scammer.

@gdownie, @cbulota - really appreciate your help on flushing this person out. Can I ask a favour? If you're able to email us, we welcome the info, and can deal with these people much faster. i.e. we check for support mails more than we check individual forums for posts about scammers!

Thanks
surforkite
surforkite
NSW
153 posts
NSW, 153 posts
10 Nov 2021 9:32am
Seabreeze...there needs to be a link for ID to a licensee or visa etc card as backup. As fare as contacting you guys go i did try that once with guy who had sold item but left add on seabreeze of kept re posting it. Spoke with him on phone and he said he liked people calling him so he could say it was sold and chat.. 2nd time i contacted seabreeze they removed add when he didnt answer phone.
More security please.!!!
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1613 posts
WA, 1613 posts
10 Nov 2021 9:30am
gdownie said..
Seabreeze...there needs to be a link for ID to a licensee or visa etc card as backup. As fare as contacting you guys go i did try that once with guy who had sold item but left add on seabreeze of kept re posting it. Spoke with him on phone and he said he liked people calling him so he could say it was sold and chat.. 2nd time i contacted seabreeze they removed add when he didnt answer phone.
More security please.!!!





I agree. As Kamikuza mentioned, Ads with pictures need to be paid for. I'm willing to bet that all scammers are using VPN's and stolen credit cards to make this purchase otherwise they would reveal their real identity.

@Seabreeze Do you use 3D secure in your checkout process ? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-D_Secure

Since we installed this feature on our two e-commerce websites, we have had zero frauds

Christian
simon78
simon78
NSW
117 posts
NSW, 117 posts
17 Nov 2021 8:34am
There is a 12m sst for sale, the wording of add is strange. Sounds like a scam, sellers handle is 'juicyjoe'
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