hey all
just started looping and have some ?s

is a back loop a f16? if not wat is a f16??

and i am wanting to throw some loops with out rolling do i loop the kite backwards??or boost up and loop it forwards??
wat is the best to start off with??

\thanks in advance

this is my post not premo
on work pc

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F-16 is a Unhooked Backroll kiteloop

If your doing a transition it would be best to loop it forwards (down loop)
but if its straight on, probably easier to do it backwards loop.

But it is harder to roll on a forwards loop (down loop)

I read somewhere that an F16 is and unhooked backroll kiteloop, BUT you have to go higher than the kite through the loop.

General has it, but like omega said you have to get the kite pretty damn low to really claim it.

without unhooking I have foun that the backroll kiteloop is best acheived trhowing the roll about 1 sec (with a 12m) after the initialtion of the kit loop and keeping the kite at 45 (rather than it spinning up above your head.) you do not need muh height at all so 'sending' the kite will probably just result in a hard landing or over rotation.

my Fav transition kiteloop, happened by acident and i now find it the easiest cos it pulls me out of the spin real nicely.

on port tack send the kite just a little bit and throw a front roll. 1/4 of the way through the spin pull the back hand so the kite loop backwards (opposite to your spin). keep you eyes on the prize and as the kite finishes it's loop it will be directly downwind of you. land with your left foot forwad and ride switch back the otherway.

you end up with 2 twists in your lines. For some reason, the dynamics of this move seems to doo all the hard work for you and as long as you keep the height at about 2.5m and throw a decent amount of spin, everything just works!

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premo said...

hey all
just started looping and have some ?s

is a back loop a f16? if not wat is a f16??

and i am wanting to throw some loops with out rolling do i loop the kite backwards??or boost up and loop it forwards??
wat is the best to start off with??

\thanks in advance

Here is a previous discussion

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=41403

F16 = as the others said = unhooked backroll with a kiteloop.

Loops without rolling ( hooked in ) = on port tack send kite to about 1-2 oclock pop and boost as normal then pull hard on your back hand and loop the kite. The bigger you boost the more time you have for the kite to go full circle and catch your weight again......... also a bigger chance of a monumental stuffup.
Looping with a backroll at the same time usually helps to bring the kite around if you are not backrolling you need to concentrate on bringing the kite all the way around the first few times you try ... the effect should be like a big hooked in railey ( legs way out and up ) as you are yanked downwind.

loops are heaps of fun but watch those knees if you loop and the kite does not make it all the way ( only if you dont 100% commit ) around you fall from a long way up best to bail on these and fall on your ass dont attempt to land on your board or you will probably hear a popping sound in the kneee area . NOt good
good luck

loops are heaps of fun but watch those knees if you loop and the kite does not make it all the way ( only if you dont 100% commit ) around you fall from a long way up best to bail on these and fall on your ass dont attempt to land on your board or you will probably hear a popping sound in the kneee area . NOt good
good luck
I think that is called a fokker 50 (always seems to score well with the peanut gallery)

thanks for feed back guys def going going for a down loop next sesh. Nailed the backroll kite loop 3rd attempt.stoked

try a flat out full speed kiteloop backloop, kite at full speed as normal, come off edge slightly let kite drift to 12, then edge hard again let go with front hand and fishpole bar with backhand and at same time look over your shoulder to try and look behind you, then wait 1-2 seconds and whooosh around you go. If done at good speed with nice amount of power you normally get higher than the kite.Ideal to come off a small wave, Its kin scary though, Dont know why but no-one at my beach will try one.

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nickloop said...

try a flat out full speed kiteloop backloop, kite at full speed as normal, come off edge slightly let kite drift to 12, then edge hard again let go with front hand and fishpole bar with backhand and at same time look over your shoulder to try and look behind you, then wait 1-2 seconds and whooosh around you go. If done at good speed with nice amount of power you normally get higher than the kite.Ideal to come off a small wave, Its kin scary though, Dont know why but no-one at my beach will try one.

I'm onto it