front rollls will counteract backrolls!

Front rolls are easier too!

Or learn to backroll both directions.

To add balance to the conversation, I reckon front rolls are harder. But only marginally.

sohk said...

fit an aftermarket swivel!!!! ive done this to other kites works fine!

most kite shops have them and they are easy to fit and cheap fix!

this must be what my friend has. i'll contact my local and see what they have in store, might be handy if i start doing multiple rolls and things get messy.

Just learn backrolls the other direction. Its easier than a swivel. Front rolls are probably a little harder than backrolls the other way.

back loop? i'm not an expert, but i'm not sure if this is a correct term. There is "Kite Loop" and then there is "Back roll", "Front roll" as far as i've been thaught.

No way are the front rolls easier than the back roll!!!

Back roll in opposite direction is easier IMO.

Front rolls look a lot more mad than the back rolls though...

Back roll with a kiteloop the same direction as your roll
No crossed lines

i thought all kites had the swivel..........
yeah front rolls are way harder and usually cause me a lot of pain and a kite that drops out of the sky and repowers in a painful way.

Backroll both ways then try to get as upside down as possible then backroll with a grab.

I feel your pain, I used to use a big cabrinha with no swivel that was so slow it could hardly make it's way round a downloop to undo the tangles!

Now the problem with my C4 is it Loops twice before I even realize what's happening.

I always thought a back loop was hooked and back roll unhooked.

Loops are what you do with your kite.

Rolls are what you do with your body. Rolls have your feet going up and over the top. Also known as flips.

Spins or turns or rotations are turning your body around. Your head stays at the top and the feet at the bottom.

Loops have the kite doing a full 360 turn. If it's only 180 then it's usually a downturn. An up turn doesn't really count because that's just an ordinary turn around.

Powered loops have the kite spinning around the horizontal axis (from the water to the sky and around). Pussy loops have the kite spinning in the vertical access (around in a circle above your head.)

Used to be that the first trick you would do would be a back roll (usually more of a vertical spin.

With new kites the easiest trick is a down turn transition.

Pussy loops are also very very easy to do. Just do a jump. Send the kite too far back, and keep it going around. You can finish the loop with your board on the water (which is why it is a pussy move).

Andrash said...

Can/would anyone tell/teach me how to do front rolls on a surfboard? Back rolls feel so natural and easy. When I try a front roll...... [}:)]....
(usually I try them way out, where I can't hear the laughter coming from the beach... )

Try them on a TT first, its not that much more difficult on a surfboard you just have to get it clear in your head first what you are doing then really throw your shoulder/ head forward and down while pulling hard on the front hand to keep the forward momentum.
I'm not sure what you are doing but maybe try to pop a bit more than send your kite back.

As for the original question about twisted lines I think the options from easiest to hardest IMO are
I. do a downloop transition on the oppostite tack to your backroll.
II. Learn to do frontrolls.
III. do a backroll kiteloop.

Kite loop Back loop it's the way forward.

anyway i strongly suggest you check your kit over!!!
LF CPR bar has a swivel attached to the pulley your centre line go's through.
only thing to watch for is the centre line safety can get twisted so best to either loop the kite or rotate the other way.

Thanks Saffer, it makes a lot of sense. It seems that sending the kite back and jumping from the back foot are key elements, as opposed to back roll when I more or less keep the kite in the same position around 11 and take off from a chop.
I am looking forward to the "anticlimax" as soon as the SSW kicks in again.
Cheers

Gorgo said...


Rolls are what you do with your body. Rolls have your feet going up and over the top. Also known as flips.

no- a flip is when you rotate over the rail of the board (eg tantrum) and a roll is when you rotate over the nose or tail (eg backroll).