Ok! i m sure this has been covered before. i ve never tried a kiteloop. done many downloops on the gibe. Am i ready? if i dont hesitate pop get a bit of air then loop the kite in 20 to 25 knts (7 mtr kite) am i going to hurt myself? i broke my leg in january am i ready?
i feel its the next step in my kite progression. how wrong can it go?
how many p;ro riders out there hurt themselves doing kiteloops?


i just want to know should i pulll a kiteloop next session?

Try learning to kite loop when the wind is lighter, then as you do more and more you will be able to crank them in stronger winds.

I reckon if you not looping, your not getting the most out of your kite.

its weird i just had a session and have been thinkin bout moving from the s mobe to the s mobe 7 but i've been worried bout the second pass so i asked tapeworm do you think i should do it and he said, "they have bundy on tap down at the local now" i replied with "wow thats awesome" and then i went and did the trick was not as scary as i thought way easier then a slim 7. guess what i'm saying is if you want to do it do it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

One you do your first one, you'll wonder what all the worry was about...

Let me show you next session

Start small, then work your way up.
I'm just in the 'working my way up' stage now. If you try them in light wind then you'll probably just do a weak little effort but it'll show you whats going to happen. On the other hand you could just go balls to the wall and go for it.

Words of wisdom that helped me were that like all tricks, commit to it and you'll be fine. Hesitate or doubt and you won't make it. Play it through in your head before you do it, then just go for it.

Hey mate,
Just a heads-up...

Kiteloops are a potentially dangerous move to learn - I have a few mates who have already broken their leg/femur/ankle etc doing this trick...particularly during the landing section.

I do them fairly often 'cause I'm 99% confident in my ability to land them decently, and, I always do exercises before going out (especially concentrating on stretching my back, thighs, calves&ankles). There are huge amounts of stress put on the lower leg section upon landing kiteloops at times.

...So I just thought I'd give you a heads-up before you start attempting them - not trying to scare you off mate.
I suggest you start in quite light wind as mentioned above, and once you have nailed it, then progress onto moderate&stronger winds therafter.
You should be right after you've build your confidence & experience up after a while.

Just remember...always do your stretches & exercises before hitting the water (it'll save you heaps on unwanted medical bills buddy!)
Too easy.
Go hard & all the best.

Try learning them unhooked, it may sound scarry but you can just let go of the bar if its not all going well. Start in lighter conditions, ride at a moderate pace with kite around 60, when you are ready depower kite bear off down wind and unhook start to drift kite back up towards 12 as you get a edge and then take off your front hand and fishpole the kite wait for lines to gain tension and do a raily, backroll or handle pass as the kite pulls you out of the watter. After the strong pull get your hands back in the right spot, spot your landing, land and hook back in.

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harrysurfer said...

LMAO

KH

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harrysurfer said...

PWNED
who knows the music to this?

Definately try in lighter stuff first. Cheat a bit by overcranking the kite on takeoff (less power in the loop). Wait till you are at the top of your jump, send it back through the window. Yawn..

If you can jump and downloop this will be all too easy.
Also, the harder you crank the bar when sending it through the loop, the tighter the kite arc will be and the less power through the loop.

A decent downloop at speed is more intimidating than a basic kiteloop. You will have no problems. Cranking a big loop in 25-30+ knots on your 7 on the way up...that's another story...Len10 stuff!!

just do it harry!!
if i can do it you can do it
the first ones i did were with a back roll, give em a crack...
spin into your back roll yanking on your back hand..fun fun

chickened out today after a downwinder from leighton to scarborough i thought it wasnt worth the risk.
but hey im insured with 0 day accident protection if i get a cut to my face and i get stitches i get 3000 straight up. 4000 for a broken leg.

you can do it hazza. if you do it i'll have a crack too, ive done a few accidentally before where i was learning how (not) to bodydrag in 25kts.... it didn't hurt that much

Don't do it until it feels right and keep your season alive. I too want to do some proper loops but will wait until it feels right.....maybe never, but who cares. I'm working on being more and more aggressive with down loops from up high...exciting enough for me at the mom. The down loops actually turn in to full loops and can catch you nicely.

to do a downloop is it with a transition? i.e. do you do a jump without much forward momentum and then bring it down from 12 anti clockwise and back the other way?

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myusernam said...

to do a downloop is it with a transition? i.e. do you do a jump without much forward momentum and then bring it down from 12 anti clockwise and back the other way?

no usually downloop as i turn and head in opposite direction.

My first kiteloops were backroll kite loops, hooked in and very low (1m50/2 meters).
15 knots wind, 12 meter kite.

- you go slowly (half normal speed),
- bring the kite up,
- when it's at the top you pull hard on the back hand and do the backroll at the same time, without jumping before (if you jump before you will get too high, and more height equal harder landing),
- keep pulling until you land (doesn't matter if the kite does more than one turn, better 2 turns than half a turn, straight downwind crash),
- doesn't matter which foot is in front at the landing, because you will go straight downwind.
- once you have landed you can take care of your kite, and your direction.

in these conditions (15 knots, low speed, low jump), you can crash without hurting yourself, just a few little slaps in your face.


an other solution for first kiteloops very easy and not dangerous in any kind of wind is:
- go fast
- jump very long and low
- let the kite go behind (if you jump from right to left, let the kite go right)
- loop the kite just before landing, or before it stops pulling.

Just thought i'd ask... i was out yesterday in 25-28kn yesterday and ripping with an 8m, and was trying out a few different things with looping and trying to get the timing right... but i couldn't quite figure out what to do when.

Built up speed (travelling left), redirected the kite back past 12 and boost. As i'm going up i initiated the loop when the kite got to about 1 o'clock. Kite loops clockwise down to about 2-3m above where i am, gets back up and catches me as i come in for the landing. Ride away towards the right. So is that a proper kiteloop? A transition kiteloop? Something else?

The other one i tried was similar, travelling left, redirected the kite back but kept the kite at 11 o'clock and looped it clockwise from there. Kite went low and straight through the middle of the wind window resulting in massive power. Kite didn't get back up to the top of the window in time to catch me so i ended up landing bloody hard and fast - butt check; not much fun.

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koma said...



Built up speed (travelling left), redirected the kite back past 12 and boost. As i'm going up i initiated the loop when the kite got to about 1 o'clock. Kite loops clockwise down to about 2-3m above where i am, gets back up and catches me as i come in for the landing. Ride away towards the right. So is that a proper kiteloop? A transition kiteloop? Something else?

It's not a proper kiteloop unless you get above the kite

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It's not a proper kiteloop unless you get above the kite

Sarcasm aside, I thought that was an F16 when you looped it below you.

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koma said...

It's not a proper kiteloop unless you get above the kite

Sarcasm aside, I thought that was an F16 when you looped it below you.

F16 is an unhooked backroll kiteloop

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koma said...

Just thought i'd ask... i was out yesterday in 25-28kn yesterday and ripping with an 8m, and was trying out a few different things with looping and trying to get the timing right... but i couldn't quite figure out what to do when.

Built up speed (travelling left), redirected the kite back past 12 and boost. As i'm going up i initiated the loop when the kite got to about 1 o'clock. Kite loops clockwise down to about 2-3m above where i am, gets back up and catches me as i come in for the landing. Ride away towards the right. So is that a proper kiteloop? A transition kiteloop? Something else?

The other one i tried was similar, travelling left, redirected the kite back but kept the kite at 11 o'clock and looped it clockwise from there. Kite went low and straight through the middle of the wind window resulting in massive power. Kite didn't get back up to the top of the window in time to catch me so i ended up landing bloody hard and fast - butt check; not much fun.

If you are going left, a kiteloop is looping the kite clockwise, a downloop is looping the kite anti-clockwise