So what was everyone frothing on this season?
For me it was the lunar lander , unreal in waves up to head high , holds rail real good , rides both ways without any hassle and not to shabby at boosting as well

Your mum!

I was also gonna say your mum

A deserted Kite beach

Dreaming again Cauncy!

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Dave Whettingsteel said..
Dreaming again Cauncy!

I thought that was Cauncy, looking at a deserted beach? You people are confusing!

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cauncy said..


A deserted Kite beach

What beach?

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Nathe said..
So what was everyone frothing on this season?
For me it was the lunar lander , unreal in waves up to head high , holds rail real good , rides both ways without any hassle and not to shabby at boosting as well

That looks fricken interesting as hell man, Can you give me some stats?
i'm particularly interested in rocker and if theres any additional nose rocker.

is it mutant foot position or centered?

I answered my own questions with this vid.

Side note. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.. Directionally optimized twin tip!
Are they so scared to call it a mutant!!!!
hahahahaha.

But its cool to see mutants making a comeback!

Coincidently I went for the 2018 Moon Patrol for the rounded swallow tail and also put a spare set of red axis pads/straps on it

Only just arrived and had one session, lots of fun, I just put the 2 larger fins on tail.

Nice!! I've set the pads back and chucked in the bigger fins in the tail. The extra nose rocker and wide point under the front foot makes it unreal for driving out of turns and frontside punts .
i tried for years to get my mako to ride well as a mutant, in the end I gave up and sold it. The board was to stiff and concave way to big. These boards are perfect for smallish waves.

found this used board for sale, also have the axis straps, pretty impressed with the performance, upwind, chop, boost all good, easy on the knees with quad concave and large V.

Because of the moderate to high rocker and round shape the board wants to carve a tight arc, good for waves but can jump around in larger carved turns.

I expected the rocker to slow the board down and soak up power but the bottom shape and rocker work really well together, pretty sure this was selected as an IKO race board.

Well worth a demo if you want to boost in surf.

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Sandfoot said..


found this used board for sale, also have the axis straps, pretty impressed with the performance, upwind, chop, boost all good, easy on the knees with quad concave and large V.

Because of the moderate to high rocker and round shape the board wants to carve a tight arc, good for waves but can jump around in larger carved turns.

I expected the rocker to slow the board down and soak up power but the bottom shape and rocker work really well together, pretty sure this was selected as an IKO race board.

Well worth a demo if you want to boost in surf.

keep the same open stance but widen it, youll have a heap more fun smacking and slashing around, think of your stance like a skateboard on a skatepark

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Nathe said..
So what was everyone frothing on this season?
For me it was the lunar lander , unreal in waves up to head high , holds rail real good , rides both ways without any hassle and not to shabby at boosting as well

What do you like in larger waves? The biggest waves I went out in were really fast too, and I felt unstable on my tronic. What makes a good big wave kiteboard?

In the bigger waves I kite the boards that I paddle surf,but with a small kite. Personnel preference but I like a bit of volume in the board with quad fin setup . Usually ride my 5'10 dominator with 31 liters and a 6.25m kite

Cheers mate!

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Nathe said..
So what was everyone frothing on this season?
For me it was the lunar lander , unreal in waves up to head high , holds rail real good , rides both ways without any hassle and not to shabby at boosting as well

Hi Nathe

i don't suppose you or the guys at Westoz have looked at just chucking some deck drip on this (or one of the other LF models like this) and riding it strapless, kind of like shinnster?

Curious if tried, pros / cons, etc

Looking around for something novelty for future slop sessions at present...
cheers

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theDoctor said..

Am I the only one stupid enough Google this??

Well played. Pocket Tenga are needed for most of these crew who travel. They go well on Hybrids in backside tubes.

Those directional twin-tips would be cool if they were way bigger, not sure why they are so small. That being said they're mostly just for aesthetics and the directional shape I don't think really adds anything useful to the board, if anything it just gives you a twintip that rides worse in one direction. I like playing around though, so I'm all for them.

I'd like to make an obscure shaped large twin-tip with the idea that it will be for use in/on waves. It's in the early stages.

Breaking my ducking ankle

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sir ROWDY said..
Those directional twin-tips would be cool if they were way bigger, not sure why they are so small. That being said they're mostly just for aesthetics and the directional shape I don't think really adds anything useful to the board, if anything it just gives you a twintip that rides worse in one direction. I like playing around though, so I'm all for them.

I'd like to make an obscure shaped large twin-tip with the idea that it will be for use in/on waves. It's in the early stages.

Anything like the shinn el stubbo rowdy? It seems to have a bit more width, if not length

I popped into a store today to look at an ex demo 2017 one but I couldn't quite bite the bullet (would have loved a trial run on it though)


just haven't quite made up my mind on skim, wake skate, other for flattish messing and slop chop I'm likely to be in later this year. Have other boards/bases covered but fun to mix it up

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Sandfoot said..


found this used board for sale, also have the axis straps, pretty impressed with the performance, upwind, chop, boost all good, easy on the knees with quad concave and large V.

Because of the moderate to high rocker and round shape the board wants to carve a tight arc, good for waves but can jump around in larger carved turns.

I expected the rocker to slow the board down and soak up power but the bottom shape and rocker work really well together, pretty sure this was selected as an IKO race board.

Well worth a demo if you want to boost in surf.

Not normally a gaytray user but have picked up one of these 145cm for a bit of fun in chop/flat water/very small waves looking forward to giving it a burl.

The thing that got me excited this year was returning to a strutted kite and twin tip.

Spent the last three years foiling and wave riding on Clouds. Clouds are super fun, but not quite boost friendly.

I set my goal on jumping above five metres and purchased a Rebel 13m (for the larger gentleman). First time out on the kite with my Nomad TT, I went six metres. TICK!!!

I am now aiming 10m (currently at 9.7m).

Highlight is boosting off waves. OMG that is fun.

have a 2004 Naish board, I would describe it as a directional twin tip.

the 2004 model has foot straps that can be used left or right foot forward.

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mazdon said..

Nathe said..
So what was everyone frothing on this season?
For me it was the lunar lander , unreal in waves up to head high , holds rail real good , rides both ways without any hassle and not to shabby at boosting as well

Hi Nathe

i don't suppose you or the guys at Westoz have looked at just chucking some deck drip on this (or one of the other LF models like this) and riding it strapless, kind of like shinnster?

Curious if tried, pros / cons, etc

Looking around for something novelty for future slop sessions at present...
cheers

Gday maz
na never really considered riding it strapless, not a bad idea for tiny days. I'd probably just wax the deck instead of blazing cash on deck grip just in case I don't like it. I'd say it'll be pretty good fun as it's wide enough.
that been said it'll be hard pressed to make it any better in smaller stuff as the thing is an absolute blast with pads on. As for rowdy's theory it rides pretty well both ways and is marginally better carrying speed through sections than a standard twinny. Swells up today and rising might break the surfboard out!!!
cracker of a season and still going

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sir ROWDY said..
Those directional twin-tips would be cool if they were way bigger, not sure why they are so small. That being said they're mostly just for aesthetics and the directional shape I don't think really adds anything useful to the board, if anything it just gives you a twintip that rides worse in one direction. I like playing around though, so I'm all for them.

I'd like to make an obscure shaped large twin-tip with the idea that it will be for use in/on waves. It's in the early stages.

Anything like the shinn el stubbo rowdy? It seems to have a bit more width, if not length

I popped into a store today to look at an ex demo 2017 one but I couldn't quite bite the bullet (would have loved a trial run on it though)


just haven't quite made up my mind on skim, wake skate, other for flattish messing and slop chop I'm likely to be in later this year. Have other boards/bases covered but fun to mix it up

Well it will definitely be wider, I think in general many boards are far too narrow to keep planning well without decent kite power. It will also be longer, because I think many people have also forgot how a longer board can have the same rocker as a shorter board but with a much more mellow arc, this also keeps you planning far easier than you'd think (10-20cm in length has a huge affect).

Different boards for different things, obviously it depends on what you see yourself doing and the locations/conditions you ride most.

I've been riding a modern mutant for a few years now. Axis Twin Wave. Loads of fun in small mushy stuff and for carving on the flats.
It has surf straps and deck grip. 148 x 43. Rolled rails for clean exit in the turns.

Still amazed that the mutant makers aren't offering inserts with more duck for the front foot ...

Concave perfection

A 15 year old concave... lol