Can someone please give me a quick rundown of unhooked moves?

In order of beginner to more intermediate.

I want to start learning some tricks in the wake style arena of kiting. I can all only do the following couple of moves, like raileys, s-bends and f16s.

Thanks in advance.

Try going to blind?

I have been looking at the progression videos on you tube, Railey to blind looks like the next step.

Yeh they are cool. I find them easy in lighter winds. With a finless board. Just go for it. Be prepared to tomahawk your kite like no tomorrow tho :)

Unhooked:
Raley
Back roll
S bend

then

Raley to blind
Back to blind
S to blind

then

fs 313 (raley to wrapped)
mobe (back roll to wrapped or hs back roll + fs 360)
S mobe (front to wrapped, hs front flip + fs 360)

then add grabs and start passing in the air. Once you get the hang of all that you can start trying to add the extra 180s to get the KGB, mobe 5, front blind etc...

+1 Raily to blind. pull the bar like mad to your hip and rotate to blind quite late if you turn to early you will loose the bar all the time

Thanks Druly, Pedleym.

That is what I was after.

i'd say learn to nail a front to blind before back to blind, so you get the hang of landing blind.

front to blind you go with the rotation and kind of fall into it - it's much easier. back to blind you have to consciously reverse the rotation.

This is the best front to blind vid I can find.

I like this front to blind

By the looks of things, they are both totally different "front to blinds" The second vid looks like a better move with a full bar tranfer in the air upside down. Quite classy.

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Underoath said...
By the looks of things, they are both totally different "front to blinds" The second vid looks like a better move with a full bar tranfer in the air upside down. Quite classy.

Yeh iv been giving it a little go. I think if you do the full rotation it's called a front blind mobe, i think.

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Drury said..
Unhooked:
Raley
Back roll
S bend

then

Raley to blind
Back to blind
S to blind

then

fs 313 (raley to wrapped)
mobe (back roll to wrapped or hs back roll + fs 360)
S mobe (front to wrapped, hs front flip + fs 360)

then add grabs and start passing in the air. Once you get the hang of all that you can start trying to add the extra 180s to get the KGB, mobe 5, front blind etc...

this is a good list.

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kemp90 said..


I like this front to blind

that one looks awesome. but i dont recon its a front to blind because he doesnt land blind. visualy looks more like a slim.

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glendog said..

kemp90 said..


I like this front to blind

that one looks awesome. but i dont recon its a front to blind because he doesnt land blind. visualy looks more like a slim.

yeh, od one hey! looks cool as tho.

Slim rotates the other way. Definitely a front to blind but it's early and an air pass

looks like a Front to wrapped
blind is a backside rotation

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Underoath said..
By the looks of things, they are both totally different "front to blinds" The second vid looks like a better move with a full bar tranfer in the air upside down. Quite classy.

Well technically the first video is a bit of a "fresh-bend to blind". Fresh-Bend is when people do a mixture of an Heelside S-bend and a Heelside Front flip... it's usually considered bad form in wake circles.

And the Second video is a Front-Flip to blind with an inverted pass, which believe it or not is almost worst form than the first video in wake circles... Passing tricks in the air when you don't need to (i.e. "Blind" tricks) is pretty bad form. If you pass the bar like that it actually makes it look like you are trying to do the extra rotation (Front-Blind mobe) but cannot. It would be like passing a Back to Blind in the air, which makes it look like you are trying to do a KGB but cannot.

Out of both of them the best form is the first Front to Blind in the first video where he grabs the trick. If you are doing a trick that doesn't need to be rushed (Front to blind, Back to blind, Raley to blind) there's no point rushing the rotation (like in the second vid), you should if possible try to grab the trick, that's the best form.

My tips for proper front to blinds is to do a lot of front rolls and get used to spotting your landings as early as possible on the way around. Once you are used to how high you will go it will making dropping into the blind landing far easier. It will feel like going to blind on a Blind Judge if you do it this way.

Although it might seem "easier" for most people not to pass a trick in the air, it actually starts to become far harder than passing it in the air the bigger and more powered you take a trick, especially if you are grabbing as your kite will start turning more and your landings are always wrapped up in the bar (blind) and not coming down toe-side.

Hope that helps.

Also look at wakeboard trick list for proper trick names kite boarders have a tendency to use wrong trick names or just make up $h1t that is completely wrong.

So does being inverted make a difference to weather the pass rotation is backside or frontside?

Backside is front hand to back opening your back to direction of travel and vice versa for the frontside??

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pedleym said..
So does being inverted make a difference to weather the pass rotation is backside or frontside?

Backside is front hand to back opening your back to direction of travel and vice versa for the frontside??

Nope.

Because the rotation of the spin is always the same no matter if you're upside down or not. Backside = Back facing the way you go first. Frontside = Front facing the way you go first. In kiting it's pretty easy to work out, in Skateboarding with regular, switch, nollie and fakie it's a whole nother story.

Copy that cheers don't know why I thought that was a frontside rotation. my bad

Thank you for your imput sir Rowdy.


This is helpfull peeps

www.wakeboarder.com/tricks/glossary.phtml

www.wakeboarder.com/tricks/tricklist.phtml