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Unhooked Frontloop v.s. S-bend

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sunseeker > 9 months ago, 6 Aug 2008

sunseeker

QLD

1203 posts

6 Aug 2008 1:09pm

What's the difference between an unhooked frontloop and an s-bend? Is it how horizontal your body is through the rotation?

Lets's assume kite angle of 45 to 60 degrees. 60 degrees is low for me at this stage.

Rhys McClintock

NSW

995 posts

6 Aug 2008 1:32pm

Pretty sure all the wake buffs will say that you have to do the rotation with the board above your head for it to count as an s-bend

You also have to have your legs extended and not tucked up for maximum effect

Such things take practice and Abs to perform though

Paul1

QLD

1011 posts

6 Aug 2008 1:36pm

An S-bend is basically a raley into front loop, the more you tweek your body upwards and behind you the better it looks. Its all about the style

O

VIC

118 posts

6 Aug 2008 1:58pm

I believe the difference is for an S-Bend you need to have your body above horizontal, otherwise its a front loop.

ewan kite

VIC

928 posts

6 Aug 2008 2:13pm

a unhooked front is just as it sounds and a s-bend you do a full railey first then a front rotation

ewan kite

VIC

928 posts

6 Aug 2008 2:15pm

a unhooked front is just as it sounds and a s-bend you do a full railey first then a front rotation

sunseeker

QLD

1203 posts

6 Aug 2008 2:15pm

Thanks guys, I expected as much - maybe this summer....

I've got it waxed in my head but in reality is much harder.

stamp

QLD

2795 posts

6 Aug 2008 2:24pm

its easy sunseeker, just throw hard into a raley and as you extend look over your back shoulder and let your body follow. push down on the handle through the whole move to stay off axis

its easier to do with the kite low than high, if the kite is high it will try to pull you upwards and you will have to fight to stay off axis. with the kite low it will make it easier to extend horizontally and you can just concentrate on the spin

KiteAction

QLD

337 posts

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6 Aug 2008 3:46pm

I preffer the term "front Flip" or "Front Roll" rather than "front loop"

stamp

QLD

2795 posts

6 Aug 2008 4:03pm

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KiteAction said...

I preffer the term "front Flip" or "Front Roll" rather than "front loop"

flip and roll are different. flip means you rotate over the rail (eg a tantrum). roll means you rotate over the tip of the board (eg a backroll)

KiteAction

QLD

337 posts

Site Sponsor

6 Aug 2008 4:11pm

cool

echostorm

QLD

1245 posts

6 Aug 2008 7:10pm

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stamp said...

KiteAction said...

I preffer the term "front Flip" or "Front Roll" rather than "front loop"

flip and roll are different. flip means you rotate over the rail (eg a tantrum). roll means you rotate over the tip of the board (eg a backroll)

You got it, anything with the term loop implies the kite. Usually a backflip is called a tantrum and a front flip, is called an egg roll. lol.

Rebel

NSW

165 posts

6 Aug 2008 8:56pm

a proper s-bend is a spin then handle pass all same direction

hood rat

QLD

56 posts

6 Aug 2008 9:36pm

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Rebel said...

a proper s-bend is a spin then handle pass all same direction

?????? please explain this nonsense

ewan kite

VIC

928 posts

6 Aug 2008 9:39pm

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Rebel said...

a proper s-bend is a spin then handle pass all same direction

there is no handle pass in an s-bend

graceful

773 posts

6 Aug 2008 7:41pm

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Rebel said...

a proper s-bend is a spin then handle pass all same direction

HUH ?????

sci

762 posts

7 Aug 2008 11:55am

Perhaps we need some perspective here:

When I started learning these i rotating the other way unhooked back roll OR reverse S-Bend mm?

sunseeker

QLD

1203 posts

7 Aug 2008 2:13pm

Cool, I get it. Here's a nice high one.

hood rat

QLD

56 posts

7 Aug 2008 2:26pm

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sci said...

When I started learning these i rotating the other way unhooked back roll OR reverse S-Bend mm?

hinterberger

sci

762 posts

7 Aug 2008 12:43pm

Well there you go I can add the Hinterberger to my moves list.

jev7337

QLD

460 posts

7 Aug 2008 3:33pm

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Rebel said...

a proper s-bend is a spin then handle pass all same direction

Mate wake up

sorse

NSW

509 posts

8 Aug 2008 1:12pm

OK that was a proper s bend on the vids now can someone show me a propper front roll where they flip over not a front spin..
Plus one more to add to your quiver guys is a Tantrum, which is a Back flip round the front of the bar :-)

sunseeker

QLD

1203 posts

8 Aug 2008 3:06pm

Haven't seen a front flip before. I can do a back flip off a wave where you get properly inverted - feels really cool to do a high slow one.

sunseeker

QLD

1203 posts

8 Aug 2008 3:26pm

Here's an unhooked frontloop. Like an s-bend but not horizontal or off-axis. Probably the trick to try before the s-bend. Note, the word loop has been used here instead of roll - it does not refer to a kiteloop.

stamp

QLD

2795 posts

8 Aug 2008 4:40pm

wtf was that horrible mess^?
it looks like a very half-arsed attempt at an s-bend. definitely not a front roll or an s-bend.
i can't believe anyone would promote that as an instructional video

choicey

QLD

280 posts

8 Aug 2008 4:48pm

woah that was a spin yuck!

Paul1

QLD

1011 posts

8 Aug 2008 4:54pm

I think they call that the front flop

echostorm

QLD

1245 posts

8 Aug 2008 5:36pm

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sorse said...

OK that was a proper s bend on the vids now can someone show me a propper front roll where they flip over not a front spin..
Plus one more to add to your quiver guys is a Tantrum, which is a Back flip round the front of the bar :-)

As I said earlier... a front flip is called an eggroll. I used to be able to do them behind cable but never tried with a kite, you carve toeside do a quick trasition to heelside then back to toeside turn into your own wake and flip off it. Basically rolling over your own wake in a flowing flip... does that make sense?

kiter1234

2 posts

6 Oct 2008 12:38pm

wat a crap s-bend...he is laid out at da start and den it turns to complete and utter poo

kiter1234

2 posts

6 Oct 2008 12:38pm

poo s-bend

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