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Tuff bladders

Created by doonut doonut  > 9 months ago, 1 Jan 2018
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doonut
doonut

WA

264 posts

1 Jan 2018 12:10pm
I need to replace a strut bladder and have seen these tuff bladders, just wondering does the diameter make any difference they only come in different lengths with no diameter option. Also the existing bladder is not straight it has a angle change in it would this matter?
Fly on da wall
Fly on da wall

SA

725 posts

1 Jan 2018 2:56pm
I know a couple of people who tried them. They wasted money as they're very thin and not the correct shape so ended up getting the right bladder as well as going through the process of trying them and buying a valve to put on it.. Cheaper to get the right bladder or repair the original.
James
James

WA

549 posts

1 Jan 2018 12:40pm
Doonut. I have a freakin s#!t load of bladders I have removed from kites as they died on me over the years before dumping the worthless carcass. Varied sizes from kn huge to itsy bitsy tiny. If yer stuck I'll gladly hunt one out of the bunch for ya. Post a template of the bladder you need if ya live far away and I reckon I'll get you as close a match as you'll ever need. No charge either dude .
theDoctor
theDoctor

NSW

5786 posts

1 Jan 2018 6:05pm
^^^ what a lovely chap
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

1 Jan 2018 5:20pm
Flick me your address
might not fit your kite
but the missus will thank you


doonut
doonut

WA

264 posts

1 Jan 2018 6:07pm
Sounds like I need to get an original replacement then, I was a bit suss that one size would fit all.
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

1 Jan 2018 8:12pm
It's a bladder, if your valve lines up with excess either side it'll inflate into your strut,
the strut will retain the bladder , I used to tie knots in my bladder on struts and Le wing tips to eliminate leaks, the bladder would just fill the void, Le bladders certainly need to be more exact due to valve placements
doonut
doonut

WA

264 posts

1 Jan 2018 8:41pm
Yeah, fix my kite.com.au have all the valves and bladders I would need, just noticed that the original has a deliberate shape to it and the strut is a smaller diameter also. Surly the local shop could get spare bladders?
daggy
daggy

WA

528 posts

1 Jan 2018 10:31pm
You're right.
And please stop calling me Shirley!
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS

QLD

1084 posts

2 Jan 2018 8:03am
Tuff bladders are only what I use for when replacing any strut or LE. They are slightly thicker than original bladders, and I believe they are the exact same bladder on practically all kites from 2010 onwards. Older kites used very thin bladders. So a Tuff bladder is ok, but get the right size or slightly over. Excess bladder can be folded into the end of the strut.
Adam'KiteRepair
Adam'KiteRepair

NSW

331 posts

2 Jan 2018 10:48am
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NorthernKitesAUS said..
Tuff bladders are only what I use for when replacing any strut or LE. They are slightly thicker than original bladders, and I believe they are the exact same bladder on practically all kites from 2010 onwards. Older kites used very thin bladders. So a Tuff bladder is ok, but get the right size or slightly over. Excess bladder can be folded into the end of the strut.


bladder thickness ranges from brand to brand. Higher end brands tend to use thinner lightweight bladders as they reduce the overall weight of the kite and preform better. a bindy will put a hole in a thick bladder or a light bladder regardless so a thinner bladder isnt much of an issue unless you handle it like a monkey on install.
Adam'KiteRepair
Adam'KiteRepair

NSW

331 posts

2 Jan 2018 10:50am
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doonut said..
Yeah, fix my kite.com.au have all the valves and bladders I would need, just noticed that the original has a deliberate shape to it and the strut is a smaller diameter also. Surly the local shop could get spare bladders?


the deliberate shape wont matter. I large bladder will fit inside a thin strut but not the other way around. Bladders do stretch alot but may not stretch to some requirements.
surforkite
surforkite

NSW

153 posts

2 Jan 2018 11:23am
Tried 2 types,both were NOT worth the extra money and didnt seem any different.
KAOS69
KAOS69

WA

1012 posts

6 Jan 2018 6:58am
I can make any size and shape bladder you want here in WA but unless it's completely missing there's no need to replace them as I've never seen one that can't be repaired by plastic welding
BrisKites
BrisKites

QLD

1292 posts

7 Jan 2018 9:36am
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Fly on da wall said..
I know a couple of people who tried them. They wasted money as they're very thin and not the correct shape so ended up getting the right bladder as well as going through the process of trying them and buying a valve to put on it.. Cheaper to get the right bladder or repair the original.


The correct shape?? Bladders don't need to be any shape. All they need to do is expand into the void.
They are thinner because they are a different material than your factory bladder. They are also considerably lighter than the factory bladder. It's usually cheaper and easier to get an original but this usually isn't an option on an older kite.
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