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Tacking and gybing foil tips

Created by coxy31 coxy31  > 9 months ago, 5 Mar 2016
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coxy31
coxy31

NSW

127 posts

5 Mar 2016 6:51pm
Ok I've got a spotz2 foil mounted to a pretty ****box old 5.0 north rocketfish..
Got the foiling thing pretty dialled at all angles just struggling with the gybes a little and defiantly the tacks..
Anyone got any tips?? I've got it dialled on surfboard and raceboard just sorta struggling with the foil.. I think the board defiantly ain't helping my case tho
Anybody recommend a good board to step up to also??
Kamikuza
Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

5 Mar 2016 7:56pm
You're riding the foil, not the board.

Aummmmmmmm...
coxy31
coxy31

NSW

127 posts

5 Mar 2016 9:08pm
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Kamikuza said...
You're riding the foil, not the board.

Aummmmmmmm...

Really I'm doing it all wrong then ay??
So straight to foiling tacks and gybes ditch the board for a piece of 4x2

Kamikuza
Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

5 Mar 2016 10:26pm
Ride the foil.

If you try and edge the board, it'll buck you off. Turn or edge the foil, it'll go round.

I wouldn't ditch the big board: you should be able to start a gybe (heel-to-toe) on the foil, then you'll need the big board when you run out of speed and touch down--at whatever point in the gybe. Took me a session to get it sorted and ride the gybe out toe-side for the rest of the tack...can't believe I've any talent at all.

Tacks... I'm planning on applying the same theory :D


wdric
wdric

NSW

1625 posts

6 Mar 2016 8:07pm
the blind leading the blind
dafish
dafish

NSW

1654 posts

6 Mar 2016 9:13pm
I can attest that coxy31 is not blind. In fact given the little amount of hours he has put on his foil and how good he is riding he is translating his previous racing skills quite effectively. He is asking questions in order to accelerate even faster. I saw him nails sick tacks today and screaming down wind. When he is ready to compete I am sure he will give people a good run.
Kamikuza
Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

6 Mar 2016 8:44pm
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dafish said..
I can attest that coxy31 is not blind. In fact given the little amount of hours he has put on his foil and how good he is riding he is translating his previous racing skills quite effectively. He is asking questions in order to accelerate even faster. I saw him nails sick tacks today and screaming down wind. When he is ready to compete I am sure he will give people a good run.


Why is he asking for advice then?
snalberski
snalberski

WA

858 posts

6 Mar 2016 10:39pm
Bruno Sroka sent me this a few days ago...



Few more tips for Jibe and take. Put the fornt in the back insert and no back straps. This will help you to change feet on the board and progress to jibe.


Not much I know but better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick
dafish
dafish

NSW

1654 posts

7 Mar 2016 8:02am
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Kamikuza said..

dafish said..
I can attest that coxy31 is not blind. In fact given the little amount of hours he has put on his foil and how good he is riding he is translating his previous racing skills quite effectively. He is asking questions in order to accelerate even faster. I saw him nails sick tacks today and screaming down wind. When he is ready to compete I am sure he will give people a good run.



Why is he asking for advice then?


I mentioned why in my post.
coxy31
coxy31

NSW

127 posts

7 Mar 2016 8:57am
Thanks dafish we are getting there slowly
I ask questions because I'm probably a little impatient and wanna run before I've served my time!!!
I probably should of asked why most people on this forum are absolute flops and would of got a first hand and very accurate account!!!
Hopefully See you on the water again sometime soon rick
Kamikuza
Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

7 Mar 2016 5:27pm
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dafish said..

Kamikuza said..


dafish said..
I can attest that coxy31 is not blind. In fact given the little amount of hours he has put on his foil and how good he is riding he is translating his previous racing skills quite effectively. He is asking questions in order to accelerate even faster. I saw him nails sick tacks today and screaming down wind. When he is ready to compete I am sure he will give people a good run.




Why is he asking for advice then?



I mentioned why in my post.


My bad, I misread and got the opposite meaning.

By tack, do you mean coming about or just riding in a straight line?
Kamikuza
Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

7 Mar 2016 5:29pm
Try doing some S-turns firs, as described in one of the LF videos...
dafish
dafish

NSW

1654 posts

7 Mar 2016 7:16pm
tack as opposed to gybe. Meaning carving the board upwind and rotating you body and swinging the board around and being in the switch position to ride off. He is starting to nail them with the mast showing which is awesome.
wdric
wdric

NSW

1625 posts

13 Mar 2016 10:23pm
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dafish said..
I can attest that coxy31 is not blind. In fact given the little amount of hours he has put on his foil and how good he is riding he is translating his previous racing skills quite effectively. He is asking questions in order to accelerate even faster. I saw him nails sick tacks today and screaming down wind. When he is ready to compete I am sure he will give people a good run.


Given he is asking the questions I didnt see him doing any leading ;)I am sure he is getting the job done quicker than most
wdric
wdric

NSW

1625 posts

13 Mar 2016 10:26pm
Yah mate, I started at xmas on the foil so be interesting to see how we go when we meet But I have to work twice as hard so I dont need to pull out the age card
dafish
dafish

NSW

1654 posts

14 Mar 2016 8:12am
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wdric said..

dafish said..
I can attest that coxy31 is not blind. In fact given the little amount of hours he has put on his foil and how good he is riding he is translating his previous racing skills quite effectively. He is asking questions in order to accelerate even faster. I saw him nails sick tacks today and screaming down wind. When he is ready to compete I am sure he will give people a good run.



Given he is asking the questions I didnt see him doing any leading ;)I am sure he is getting the job done quicker than most


He sure is. And it's fun to watch. Now I am trying to learn from him :)
dafish
dafish

NSW

1654 posts

14 Mar 2016 2:57pm
thanks Marvin!
kitebt
kitebt

NSW

325 posts

15 Mar 2016 9:19am
I have noticed a significant pick up in people taking to foiling on the East Coast this season is it due to:

1) An ageing population with worn out knees?

2) It's a natural progression?

3) The wind has been crappy and light this season?


Kamikuza
Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

15 Mar 2016 10:30pm
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kitebt said..
I have noticed a significant pick up in people taking to foiling on the East Coast this season is it due to:

1) An ageing population with worn out knees?

2) It's a natural progression?

3) The wind has been crappy and light this season?




Yes. And...endless powder.
Gorgo
Gorgo

VIC

5108 posts

16 Mar 2016 9:04am
It's a natural progression. The only thing more rewarding than the feeling of cracking riding on the foil is when you start to consistently carve gybes.

Foiling is a bit easier on your knees, but not significantly so. The crashes are spectacular!

The light wind thing is a bit over emphasised. It is fun in light wind but I am having more fun in 20+ knots with a 7m kite. Riding is easier. The kite crashes less often and if it does it bounces off the water. Carving onto wind swell is huge. As well as being up on the foil, you have the ability to move around in three dimensions. Being up high is fun, heeling over is good. Pumping up and down on the foil is a bit like having your own personal 1 metre wave to ride on. Blasting downwind at speed and porpoising up and down onto the foil ... can be terrifying.
Kanaelili
Kanaelili

QLD

33 posts

16 Mar 2016 8:29am

Nice foiling.




kitebt
kitebt

NSW

325 posts

16 Mar 2016 9:47am
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Kanaelili said..

Nice foiling.






Now thats how to make foiling look easy!
coxy31
coxy31

NSW

127 posts

17 Mar 2016 6:37pm
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wdric said...
Yah mate, I started at xmas on the foil so be interesting to see how we go when we meet But I have to work twice as hard so I dont need to pull out the age card

Haha I'm no spring chicken anymore either mate
bigtone667
bigtone667

NSW

1551 posts

17 Mar 2016 9:07pm
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Kanaelili said...

Nice foiling.







A three and a half metre kite!!!
borist
borist

8 posts

18 Mar 2016 10:21am
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coxy31 said..
Ok I've got a spotz2 foil mounted to a pretty ****box old 5.0 north rocketfish..
Got the foiling thing pretty dialled at all angles just struggling with the gybes a little and defiantly the tacks..
Anyone got any tips?? I've got it dialled on surfboard and raceboard just sorta struggling with the foil.. I think the board defiantly ain't helping my case tho
Anybody recommend a good board to step up to also??


Pay close attention to your torso position vis-a-vis front wing. Keep the movement minimal. This one thing helped me to progress the most.
I can't tack yet. Foiling jibe I learned watching Gunnar Biniasch's videos on Vimeo. First the touch-down version and then the foiling one. The key was not to move my torso when switching feet and good kite movement timing.

The board. 2 front footstraps are obvious. Back strap gets in the way when learning, taking it off or moving it as far back as possible helps. A bit of width (50cm) keeps you more stable, length around 140 -150 cm is plenty. Large rail bevels (racing boards) can make the board feel a bit unstable, I'm not a big fan.

My gear:
alpinefoil xlp + 142 x 52.5 cm board. Very stable, I feel like I can dance on it without paying the price.
Spotz2 + Board Unlimited racing board, small (about 5ft x 22"). Very light, but feels quite unstable when on water, like a canoe, possibly due to large rail bevels (and narrower width). Spotz2 is more sensitive to keeping things aligned than most other foils.
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