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You were learning/teaching in the pond? Take it to the other side of the spit. The pond at saftey bay is a world class flat water spot and is too shallow to be teaching anyway.

If you just kite on the outside of the spit, you'll be fine. It's a bit deeper and you can walk out on the sandbar a long way so the learners can even go out when it's bang onshore.

If you were able to annoy Simon to the point he said something then you must have been a total f#kw!t I'm afraid. He is one of the most easy going locals at the pond, plus to say in the other post him and his mates where doing tricks and endangering poley's would be total crap. BTW, The school that operates there are all blow travelers here just for the season, they know squat of the area.

Simply you are just another tosser that's never in the wrong and don't listen to whats actually being said. Happens all the time, 2 weeks ago I politely approached someone I know personally who was taking photo's. I asked how long they intend taking photo's for, can't remember word for word his response but he didn't like it. So then I backed it up by saying that the problem is the guy he's shooting is just doing 50m runs right in the middle of the circle work and it just throws everything out of whack.... Did he listen and understand the concern of the locals, NO. Did they get ****ty when the locals got sick of it and started forcing them out, YES. (anyway how many photo's can someone take everyday of the same person)

Just listen to advice and respect the locals, that's what we do when we go else. where.

If you are prepared to teach in such an area as the pond then you are pretty ignorant. Allowing a beginner to control a kite that can easily carry them the downwind distance of the pond, in just a few moments, to the awaiting fence, trees and powerlines is irresponsible. In fact teaching at any onshore spot that contains more than just sand can have serious consequences and even sand can pack a serious punch. There are a million cross-shore spots in Perth to teach at that will involve nothing more than a serious water slapping and a swim to learn at. Get you’re screwed on properly or a lot more people are going to give you a mouthful.

Sounds like you need a refreshing on the meaning of localism as well......

That whole pond at Safety bay is always so crowded - your student's not going to get a decent lesson in those conditions anyway... There's nothing wrong with the upwind side...

I'll try and change the course of this thread to a more proactive approach, that way others won't get offended either.

Here's our local signage, it's been erected at 4 entry points to the pond where kiters and poley's alike can't miss it.



As you can see from the diagram, you where definitely in the wrong and I'm surprised you never got abuse from the poley's for being in their area.

To anyone else interested in Safety bay you can find extra info (Not Heaps but needs more input from others) on our facebook group.

www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=126064827413021

Join up, ask questions, share your experiences.

Cheers Sam

"Granted we were a bit more downwind of where they normally setup but that left room for your filming. We were totally out of your way but that wasn't enough for you. And we did have a read of the sign you pointed out but couldn't find any reference to "No Beginner".

As for windsurfing zone, my bad, we were there and won't happen again."

Did you have bar and lines or a boom????? You have been served...

"stop localism" Yeah righto, go find your own little peice of paradise, as i have, its a big state with lots of wind!! There is so many km's of beautiful coastline to explore. I heard about this road called "Idian Ocean Drive" - go for a drive!!

go back to the valley, man

first of all i like hate so lets begin with the hate wagon.

your an idiot, you didnt ask locals about what hte local rules and regs are. safety bay has been close to getting kiting banned numerous times so it was locals that are enforcing the no teaching rule there to preserve a spot that is being ruined by the countless FKN euros blowing in and not paying attention let alone students.

THINK clearly, as everyone stated, you are teaching in water that is on average only knee deep, with maybe 100m distance between where you are and the beach area, then a fence line and trees, road and power lines to contend with, your noobie fks up and starts looping his kite, within 3 - 4 full loops your noobie is in the fence half cut and probably with a kite in the trees if not worse the road or over the many pedestrians walking there.

stop being such an absolute **** of a person and just ask the locals what the general go is and then abide by the rule, its fkn simple. the rules are there for reason. to have Simon of all people approach you shows you were being an idiot, if this is how you respond to the way he approached you then god i wish i was there to see how you would of reacted to my approach.

it is absolutely just ****ting me, all those kooks and clowns from euro town coming into the pond and just circling back and forth between the two parts of the curved section of the bay. absolutely crowding it up and not looking before you turn etc.


how it works is pretty simply, coming out of the pond (right foot forward) you just hug along the sand bar and if oyu got a gap you do your trick land it hook back in and ride out past the sand spit atleast 50+ meters before turning around, slow down and space it so you get a nice clear run into the pond, you do your trick land it and ride up to the sand bank, stand on the bank look behind you with your kite on the land side and make sure it's clear before you turn so that you dont cut off or "snake" the person coming in behind you. safety bay has a bit of a funky routine but it works good once you get into it.

most importantly make friends with the locals, go say hi and introduce yourself, that way they know you and you are already on a better foot from the beginning and they can show you how it all works.

to be honest i dont think i will be as tolerant this year with assbags blowing in and kooking it up for the locals. its ** when you been riding a spot for ages and then in summer when the wind is actually good for the spot you keep getting cut off and keep having people get in your way when they are not even from there and not even trying to make an effort to be courteous.

I say save localism.......it is the local rules that matter, learn them.

While we are on the topic of idiots, I mean etiquette. To some of the guys doing down winders. Just because you are doing a down winder riding the waves doesn`t mean when you come past a busy spot you automatically have right of way. The (simple) rules still apply. If you are crossing close to someone and are up wind, lift your kite, and if you are down wind of them lower your kite.
And Euros, if you are reading this these rules apply to you too.
As it gets busier and busier we should be looking out for each other more.

out of curiosity, is this stoplocalism guy a blow in euro?

drove past again today on way to work and there were two of you Mother *** teaching in there again.. F*ck off no one wants you there get the f*ck out of the pond you stupid mother ***.

all euros and kooks should just f*ck off back to woodies or even better to their own spots again.

yeah its a joke when locals don't even want to be at their own spots anymore. I went past today after work when i did a lunch run for jase and it was so chaotic it just put me off going for a ride.

I don't really like getting overly agro at kiters a lot because we are all out there to enjoy a bit of stoke but if you can't follow basic rules and listen to people when they give you advice etc then you really are asking people to hate you.. guess next time ill just have to start deflating their kites or popping their releases [}:)]..


What is really sh!tting me off is that there are so many kiters going through the windsurfer zone and now the windsurfers are all riding up in the kiter area so you don't even want to try a trick in case one of them runs into your kite when you crash etc its just getting stupid.

they are not all bad though. yesterday there was a french couple down there and i was just having a chat to them while setting up and found out they only just finished having lessons etc so i just told them the basic rules etc and they were more than happy to oblige and move on to the right spots. why can't everyone be cool like that?