Hi every one
When we have the westerly wind in Perth at the above mentioned location wind is side shore, is there any legal issues for kite surfing there?

There's a nice big park with a sandy shore.

Cheers
Alex

Kadkhah said...

Hi every one
When we have the westerly wind in Perth at the above mentioned location wind is side shore, is there any legal issues for kite surfing there?

There's a nice big park with a sandy shore.

Cheers
Alex

Did I run into you yesterday at Melville?

Lucky,

As I was driving past on my way home from work some tourist kook decided to unhook and ditch his kite while standing next to his car on the grass at Melv. ****ing seriously, 55knt mega front, dead onshore and one space cadet decides this is the place to session on his own.

Over it.

Dude, what are you on about? You just responded and bumped the post up? PM me if your so enlightened on the situation down there? Kiting should be totally banned there in winter to ensure access is maintained over the consistent and safe summer period. Period.

Go read up on some of the similar issues the Gorge crew are having. Perhaps some Inept-style localism is in order? www.nwkite.com/forums/t-15052.html

For the record I did stop and tell the punter the local go and help him out. I also had a somewhat constructive conversation with the homeowners who were less than impressed with the situation.

The council (Melville) needs to pull their head out and stick in the damn information signs everyones been asking for since when, 2006? PM me if you want the contact details for the Councilor in charge of the matter. Perhaps someone will have more success than me...

...er...just for clarity...do I understand from tomasb's post that kiting is not allowed at Melville in winter?

Just curious - I'm a Melville kiter (beginner - summer only) and this is news to me. If its true, then yep, we need some signs.

Trent R said...


I am the person you call "Tourist Kook"...

I didn't know till now that we are not aloud to kite surf during the winter @ Melville.
If you didn't know and there is no sign there, you are not to blame mate.

PS. Check the location that I mentioned above, it is a much safer spot when wind is Westerly.

LOLing at this thread.
There are no official rules that say no kiting at Melville during winter.
However common sense should prevail lol

gettin a little OT here

Kad - the first time you fall in that urinal city pond... you'll understand why no one kites in it.

Theres a much better spot to kite at - and if anyone wants to know where
youll have to PM me, Its not for learners, Super Duper heroes, villains or kooks though and you will most probably die or be maimed if your not SuperFly at 'self rescue'

I will however Rescue your board for the 50 quid Reward though

That's a picture of Fat Mike, the singer and bassist for NOfx...

Fat Mike said...
blah...

The council (Melville) needs to pull their head out and stick in the damn information signs everyones been asking for since when, 2006? PM me if you want the contact details for the Councilor in charge of the matter. Perhaps someone will have more success than me...

[Thread hijacked!!]

The council just haven't finalised the design of the said sign because they don't want to waste our good money on a sign which is going to be outdated when kiting gets banned 2 weeks after they put it up. I'd suggest something like that to keep everyone happy [}:)][}:)]

ATTENTION!!

KITING IS ONLY ALLOWED ON THE MELVILLE FORESHORE:

IN SUMMER IN WINDS LESS THAN 10 KNOTS
IN SPRING IN WINDS LESS THAN 15 KNOTS
IN AUTUMN IN WINDS LESS THAN 25 KNOTS
IN WINTER IN WINDS WITH GUSTS LESS THAN 10 KNOTS
IF A MEMBER OF WAKSA
IF A RESIDENT AND RATEPAYER OF MELVILLE
IF MALE
IF FEMALE
IF CERTIFIED BY IKO
IF USING A BOW KITE

You getting the general idea?

Oh... and each order comes with a free sticker:

______
| NOT |

Dudes. There ARE signs there...........
Look on the other side of the no standing /parking on verge signs and facing the water it says something like "caution kitesurfing area". These signs were finally put up 6 months after the council meeting arount april. They were not taken down over winter and therefore there is probably some ambiguity about when you should kite.
Trent
"2) "ditch his kite while standing next to his car"??? I've been asking that lady with the camera to ignore this incident (kite fell into her yard)"

That is so not cool. you put your car across a main road and got pictures of yourself taken by the main complainer that we have had to deal with for the last 4 years personally. Direct onshore you could of dropped your kite in the water, on the sand and wound your lines in, whatever. You will be another direct issue that the melville locals will have to deal with and you will just move on. No sympathy, cant self launch, cant self land, kiting by yourself on a narrow beach directly onshore.
Who cares if Fat mike has exaggerated the facts a little, you F@RKED UP

So which biatch got slapped?

Personally I respect Mike cause it takes guts to have hair like that in a town over run with cashed up (peroxided) boguns. He also has my recalcitrant self reaching for the theasaurus - whereas most of you numbnuts have me reaching for the barf bag.

Just my 2 seasonaly adjusted sense

I dunno whether the bloke was a touro or even in the wrong but it seemed to be a decent scrag fight either way.


BTW I have never bothered to kite the river cause:

A) It is boring flatwater with dingle-dangle tools in abundance in (usually) a small area.
B) There are far too many nasty objects including, boats, signs, cars, more cars, CUB compensation vehicles, BBQs, kids, dogs, houses, big kn CUB houses and the prev mentioned dingle-dangle tools.
C) The wind is gusty as sh!te
D) The natives are hostile
E) The trees are hungry
F) Have you noticed how many kms of awesome beaches there are in Perf??
E) All of the above

Seeya next Wednesday. <<Wonder if anyone gets that ref BTW?

so, after all this, we've come to the conclusion that: what? peopl should launch? from where? obviously in appropriate wind conditions for a very start but i always launch with my kite on the beach and me in the water? is this wrong in some opinions? if the wind conditions aren't ridiculous i would think this is the safest way? and when i say i'm in the water i mean so far out that my launchee is on the edge of the water...

Trent R said...

I am the person you call "Tourist Kook"
You should change your name from "Fat Mike" to "Fat Lie";

1) "decided to unhook"??? Chicken loop popped out of harness hook by accident during the launch and I explained it to you and you knew about it before you post here

2) "ditch his kite while standing next to his car"??? I've been asking that lady with the camera to ignore this incident (kite fell into her yard)

3) "55knt mega front"??? there were ~10 wind surfers in the water and wind at 5:15 PM was 25-28 knots

4) "cadet decides this is the place to session on his own"??? There was another kiter who helped me launch and took my kite out of their yard and I really owe him big time for his help

I know that this incident is my fault and there is no excuse but you are a sick person for coming here and lie about everything to make you self look smart and every one else like idiots.
If you need self confidence don't practice it on me.

Trent

Ok,

In an attempt to pull at least some resolve from this rant, I'll try to explain why I went into major involuntary brain-snap.

The location is a double edged sword. Great for learners from the waterline out, but also one of the most unforgiving and contentious from the high-water mark back. For no other reason than the insanely close proximity of a road and some rather large and costly houses.

To exacerbate the problem, one of the houses (as i understand it) neighboring the garden in which you crashed your kite happens to be owned by this person http://www.janetwoollard.com.au/. The large number of residents unhappy with the practice of kitesurfing at this beach are in cahoots with said member of the legislative assembly. The lady taking your photo, upon doing so, will promptly forward images and specific details of your incident to the local MP and again strengthen their case for some unwarranted access reform at the beach. They are lobbying for an outright ban.

A large number of kiters have for some time now been doing their best to counter these efforts. Their tact, totally justifiable in my eyes, has been to demonstrate to the local council that we (ANY kiter using the location) are able to self-regulate and prevent serious injury. Be they a kiter, a resident, a driver, jogger, dog whatever.

As part of this solution they put the buoys in to keep kiters away from the road and it prevails among common sense that kiting in conditions that might increase the chance of you or your kite ending up on the road should possibly be avoided. This would, dare I be so presumptuous, include heavy winter fronts pushing dead on shore.

So when the Cott swell buoy is reading 2.6m, possibly the biggest i've witnessed in 15 years and Rotto has dead onshore gusts just nudging over the 50knot mark, seeing someone do exactly what everyone who ever goes to Melville does not need kind of flipped me off.

Other than a catastrophic lack of intuition, it's not your fault. The council was (apparently) going to install signs for kiters such as yourself explaining the suggested guidelines for safe kiting. Instead, as was shown in the photo, they installed the tiny warning signs to alert passing ants of the dangers of kookouts.

So at the end of the day, no ones the wiser. Residents still take their photos and lobby away, and kiters still have no idea of whats going on.

It would be nice to see some real locals (hell I live in Albany) anyone, show some ownership here and not treat Melville like the village bike or the girl next door...

Rockin stuff Dave, I just feel like a total kook whining on about it. I'd rather just be kiting...