SB low end vs Edge?

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kimpa
kimpa
25 posts
25 posts
10 Nov 2010 1:20pm
I am considering replacing my 12m 2009 Switchblade to something more fun and adult.

I have a 13m C4 but haven't really flown it until last weekend. Basically just haven't had enough wind for it. Now that i've flown it i am in love but the issue is that it has no low end and needs much more wind than my 12m SB to get me going.

Therefore i'm thinking to get something to replace the SB that has enough grunt to get me out of the water and up in the air long before the C4 will get out of the bag.

does anyone know how the 13m Edge compares to the 13m C4 - and how would it compare to hte SB for lighter winds?

Open to any other suggestions on options to replace the Cabs.

Cheers.
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
10 Nov 2010 9:39pm
you haven't said what style of riding you want to do. It makes a big difference in what type of kite you should get. Having said that the delta shapes seem to be the best for light wind fun
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
10 Nov 2010 9:50pm
I'd be very suprised if you are kiting beyond the limits of your SB.......

The SB s are fairly grunty kites with a good bottom end..... You could however consider a Bandit they are also know to be quite grunty and still a delta type shape.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
11 Nov 2010 12:37pm
bennie said...

you haven't said what style of riding you want to do. It makes a big difference in what type of kite you should get. Having said that the delta shapes seem to be the best for light wind fun


bennie's right. The Edge will boost bigger than most and scream upwind but the C4 will be more suited to freestyle moves. Then are are a host of surf specific kites as well to choose from.
kitesurfbali
kitesurfbali
WA
531 posts
WA, 531 posts
11 Nov 2010 11:55am
Shorten the back line on the C4.. Out of the factory they use the middle knot adjustment...
No way the SB 12m have more low end then a C4 13m!!!
I know for sure as have flown both back to back in 2010 models...
And C4 2011 has a bit better low end.

Bye Jankie
rusty7
rusty7
QLD
504 posts
QLD, 504 posts
11 Nov 2010 2:55pm
I have the 13m Edge and an 11mC4,I weigh 95 kg dry. Ride an underground 142 styx.
I have riden the SB.
The 13m edge has huge grunt way more than any other 13m I have riden. It boosts very well with long hang time. It is slow to turn but with practice you can get used to this. It will loop but it is more of a sweep turn. I enjoy doing kiteloop transitions on this kite but you have to have plenty of hieght at the start in order to get the kite around. I can get going on this in about 12 knots. I have flown this kite in over 30 knots and had a blast. The C4 turns quick and also boosts extremely well although it behaves quite differently. It loops really nice. i don't get the C4 out of the bag unless it is over 25 knots. I have stuck with this combo for this season as it works really well for me. Agree with Jankie this years C4 has better bottom end
kimpa
kimpa
25 posts
25 posts
11 Nov 2010 11:32pm
kitesurfbali said...

No way the SB 12m have more low end then a C4 13m!!!



Wow, that's an amazing statement based on my experience, I had it out on Saturday in conditions that would have suited my 10m SB. I will have to spend more time with it for sure.

My doesn't have the knot thing it has the adjuster tags at the bar. How would you recommend setting them?

What style is a good question. I more think of terms of conditions than style (maybe I could do with some). We have f-all wind and s#*ty chop when we have wind. So the best thing for us is low end grunt with lots of control over the power to keep control over the slop. No wave, just chop.

You mentioned that the Edge was slow, how does it compare to the SB for slowness?
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
12 Nov 2010 9:15am


You mentioned that the Edge was slow, how does it compare to the SB for slowness?


You have to ask yourself - what are the advantages of a fast kite for your style of riding. Many freestylers slow their kites down so that they are more stable during manouvers. If you are looping a kite while you are in the air, you may want one that will pull smoothly through the manouver and give you a soft landing. If you want to accurately place your kite or milk every once of power then a fast kite is good.

You really have to look at the total package. Price, build quality, pulleys on the kite (I hate pulleys), trim operation, bar features, safety aspects, relaunch ability
then performance - up wind capability, boosting, hang time, speed through the air, wind range, low end - high end.

If you're not very experienced you may not appreciate many of these things. The Edge are pricy but worth the money if you can appreciate their features. If you're new to kiting and are going to crash your kite a lot then go for something cheaper with easy relaunch. Trade up in 12 months time.
kitesurfbali
kitesurfbali
WA
531 posts
WA, 531 posts
12 Nov 2010 1:25pm
Hello Kimpa,
if you have with the adjuster you need to pull to the maximum.
Make the back line as short as possible and fly with the red ball against the cleat.

But the new bar for 2011 doesn't have adjuster!

I'm really sure of what I'm saying as really we use both kites for me and the local school. Still even in 2010 models power is about 1,5 meter less.

C4 13m = SB 12m
C4 12m = SB 11m
C4 11m = SB 10m
etc.

One day there was a guy with a new SB 2011 on 10m size and we switch with my 2010 C4 12m and I had more low end...

The Edge 13m have about the same power as Switchblade 14m but turn slower then SB14m.

Hope this can help.
Bye Jankie
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