this really depends on what trick your doing and how you are doing it. some tricks are naturally easier in strong or light winds, for example, if you are doing a back to blind pass in the air or a slimchance they are tricks you tend to really edge hard and huck into so it is still fairly easy to do when your really powered (also because you can pass then spot the landing). but say you are doing a back to blind or a front to blind but not passing in the air these are tricks you tend to throw your body over and is more of a timing thing and how much air you get, so when it gets windier or you are more powered these tricks tend to get harder, i would say if you are trying these sort of tricks yes i would bear off the wind first towards your kite unhook and then you only have to edge back upwind the right amount to get the desired air time or flick.

yes kinda similar in strong wind it will be easier to land a ralley to bizzle with a pass in the air simply because u dont have to time landing backwards with the bar behind your back, you just pass then spot ur landing toeside.

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Originally posted by Charl dv

what would be the first aerial pass 2 learn? blind judges? slims? or dangles, some people said to skip dangles as you need strength for that pass and its actually easier learning slims first? yeah i recently started tryin to land tricks to blind, i kite chopy **** and when i was on the 13m moderately powerd i could land to blind but in more powered conditions it was harder to get ur body in the right position, i find if u put ur centre of gravity lower to the water by bending ur knees more its not quite as hard but im still working on it aswell. never really wasted too much time with blind before!

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For blind a couple of key pointers, kite low really helps, your arm will naturally wrap around you, if you have it high it wil be pointing skyward and will be harder to land and look worse. Also if your going to do it commit, theres no half way between blnd and heelside so make sure you rotate as much as you can and with raileys to blind make sure you keep your head facing the direction you are going. If you look backwards it tends to stop your rotation and you will end up under rotated and your fins will catch.

As for arial passes, it really depends personally I think the easiest of the 4 main inverts is Slims, however I know people who have found Front Mobes(hasselhofs to start) and KGB's(backs to blind to start) easiest. I was told something in summer that really made sense, if your only trying to learn one trick at once thats all you are going to learn. So if I was you I would probably try all the inverts see what feels easiest and most natural. Some people say back mobes are the easiest to get the pass on but I reckon they are harder to land than some of the others.

I don't think blind judge is necessarily the best spot to start air passes because to do it you have to go into it pretty powered and really commit, when people start off learning air passes they normally go into it too slow with the kite pretty high.

If you want some specific tips on a certain trick I'm sure there will be someone on the forum who can help you. Just name it.

Just to clarify,
A back mobe is a back roll to revert with a 180 pass???

ditch all otehr trickery except. bosh. thats all u need.

As I have just learnt, switch front roll to blind. But what I was reffering to is basically an incomplete front mobe which technically isn't even a trick if the trick polic are after me again. Any way when people first start learning front mobes they normally land toeside first due to the way you come out spinning and what hand you come out with on the bar. You see its easiest to land with for instance left foot forward when the left arm is holding the bar. Don't worry about it you will see it's less rotation than landing heelside.

i duno.. my friend blair from auckland is sponsored by best and he talks to alvaro on msn often. alvaro told him to try back mobes first koz blair prefers doing backroll tricks. :S i thought coz u already got momentum going itl b a bit easier? but i duno koz im a kook (Y)

hey spacey where do u kite? n what do u ride? we shd hav a sesh sum time so i can take some notes

man y cant u be cool and kite pinaroo like me.. safety is a treck and a half for me with no ride. dang oneday il have a car and i can go kite in al these flat water spots
might hav 2 go learn it al in the surf between the breaks might aswell say gudbye to my kites now!! how long do u think itl take to learn. im going to england in july holz hopefully get wind and kite in poole harbour wich is like a lagoon or so i hear. also gona be touring coast. hope i get some nice spots where i can spend time pracicing these moves.

10% say frontmobe, 22% say backmobe, 20% say slim, 24% say kgb and 24% say blind judges.

YUS i just realized i got 2 thanks guyz if i get out in the flats next week in the easterlies il c what i prefer

dude im on myspace 24/7 anyway. its kinda my life now. and im not a real big fan of fish.

im sure atleast 3 of us in this post are still school kids... im not silly im just rediculously stupid at times

rowdy wooooooooooooo space monkey booooooooooooooooooo


dude i was scared for my life at nats was so farkin windy

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Originally posted by sir ROWDY

dude! lol chill out no need to flip out im just sayin that a front mobe is not the move anyone would learn first because its a move i have pretty much, actually never seen anyone do one really powered and clean kiting. if i ever get some wind and a camera man i will get some footage and post it here for you. or how bout you come here and ride? as for just doin 3s and grabs, "who are you to judge" you dont even know me you so how you gonna know what im throwin down?
p.s. im sick of hearing this "oh you east coast idiots dont know about wind until youve come to the west blah blah blah" for your information i have been to the west coast twice, one time i stayed for over a month, i have also been to hawaii and i think that its atually alot windier and crazier there.

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Rowdy I never made a comment about our wind here or anything like that. The only remark I made as east vs. west was that most of our best riders ride at a spot that has no terrain what so ever to launch tricks off which as I am sure you know means the kite has got to be higher. Don't get so offended dude, and as for coming East I was going to go to the nationals until I tore my shoulder and was going to go to Mackay except I got uni exams. I'm sure one day I will meet you and on that day we will both realise we are not complete ****s like we are on seabreeze.

As for I don't know who you are, sure I do your this guy.
http://www.nswwavesailing.org/profiles_sailor.asp?sailorID=16

Peace.