Does anyone else have trouble adjusting the depower line on their Rev ??? I find once I've launched my kite it is really hard to release the depower line as it seams really wedged into the cleet . I really have to yank heaps hard to get it out ??? Am I missing something ?????

they used dyneema which is too large for the cleat on the rev's

they needed to use the 6mm instead of 8mm, there would still be plenty of leeway in the breaking strains and it actually seats properly in the cleats. with the 8mm stuff, it jams in too hard and is difficult to remove as you suggest.

Any sugestions ??? Can't really change it can you ????????

someone like north (like with their kite lines) should do some development into depower rope. The current depower rope and cleat setups at the moment are pretty ****ty.


these loose woven dyneema ropes dont cleat well at all. Something like formuline, might be a goer. Same kind of stuff but 12 braid and tight weave. Cleats off much better!

pull it at an angle not straight down towards you. make sure bar is fully away from you.
i have no trouble de-powering and im just a girl.
i do appreciate what you mean and i hate the dangly bit when one is fully depowered.
it is way better than having to have monkey man arms to reach a depower strap too far up the center lines!!!

carbine - have a look at the centre line on the new ozone kites, it's "beal" (whatever the hell that is) and it's amazing. silky smooth, no loose fibres and will cleat brilliantly. if i could buy it from a shop, i would!

My 2 cents on the Rev...

I agree it could be improved, but whilst I used to struggle with it, I don't anymore.

I think you just get used to it and get the knack. The only thing I sometimes struggle with now is when its fully powered up I occasionally have trouble pulling the depower - just getting it started. Once you've got more than a 5cm or so out its not a problem.

Anyway I find this all fairly minor. I love the Rev, but I do think this is a small thing that could be improved.

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Neill said...

carbine - have a look at the centre line on the new ozone kites, it's "beal" (whatever the hell that is) and it's amazing. silky smooth, no loose fibres and will cleat brilliantly. if i could buy it from a shop, i would!

that looks to be marlow formuline



Good windsurfing shops should have it (i know windforce does). Its used for downhalls on windsurfing rigs. Low friction (not quite as slipperly of the normal stuff though), cleats well, high strength.

Hey Carbine,

Ozone use 5mm Beal Dyneema. It has a breaking strain of 400kg. It isn't Formuline. It's pure Dyneema. You can find it's stats on this website http://www.bealplanet.com/portail-2006/index.php?page=cordelettes&lang=us

Beal is the company name that manufactures the Dyneema. We can order the cord in any length if anyone needs it.

Good winds,

Toad,
In regard to the Rev,

When you go to pull the de-power line out of the cleat it makes it so much easyer if you have the bar sheeted out at least half way.

If you are sheeting in (pulling the bar towards you) in one hand and trying to pull the rope out of the cleat in the other you are fighting the power of the kite and it is almost impossiable to do.

In regards to the quliaty of the de-power lines I too find that most of them wear out way to fast.

The best thing to combat this is make sure you wash all the sand out well.A quick rinse under the tap dose not get all the sand out between the fibers and next time you go to use it the rope gose tight and the sand wears the line down faster.

The Ozone line dose look the best.

With the help of your local kite shop you Should be able to modifiy this line to suit most set ups.

Hope this helps,

Cheers

Luke

Thanks Terrah and Kite action , It's great to be able to get positive feedback and find out what I'm doing wrong ...I will try your suggestions and hopefully get rid of my problem ... More power to you (and wind)...Thanks TOAD ..

Yeah, depower before sheeting in is the way to go. As far as wear goes, I had the same setup on my TD1 and used wax on the rope when the kite was quite new. The rope lasted until I sold the kite after a full years use and was still in good condition. I had mates that went through 2 ropes in this time with the same level of use. People say that sand sticks to the wax and wears out the insert in the bar but I didn't have this problem.
I haven't done this on my new REV yet but will be doing soon.

I have the same problem with my TD2. The cleat requires a good 30 kilos of force to get the rope out initially, so I usually take the rope out before launching, its easier to re-adjust before the rope gets jammed in there tight.

I'd say the biggest killer of anyform of rope is seasalt, wash it out before it dries, crystalises and wrecks fibers, (I'm guessing the wax was to waterproof the rope... good idea ). I know this because I used to wash my bar and lines almost as soon as I got outof the water, but not my bridle. The tightly woven rope in the bridel, which I think is water resistant didn't wear, because it doesnt need to provide much flex is as new, but the pigtails on the bridel are worn to hell... going to replace them this week.

Sand will also do this, but to a lesser extent.

i think the new slingy bars will have a better line from what ive seen, far less wear and no loose fibres. but what do i know.

Hey guys, Sorse told me this trick and it works a treat:

When depowering the Rev, have the bar about half way in, and as you pull the depower rope, push the bar out at the same time.

You do need a bit of muscle but I've found this little tip makes it heaps easier.

When you say wax , would surfboard wax do ? Or do you need a special sort of wax ??????

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TOAD said...

When you say wax , would surfboard wax do ? Or do you need a special sort of wax ??????

Don't use surfboard wax, it's meant to grip and will attract every grain of sand on the beach. Use Bees Wax and apply to your rope when it's really dry. I get mine from a soap shop. Costs like $1.50 for a block which will last you a long time. Very good stuff.

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When you say wax , would surfboard wax do ? Or do you need a special sort of wax ??????

Or just use candle wax if you cant get bees wax but make sure you clean and dry your rope before you wax it my rev line still looks brand new and it s worked hard also makes depowering much easier another trick i do is pull just a little on depower above the cleet as i depower! I can now do this very quik and easy and definately sheet out when depowering! good luck!

Thanks again for the advice guys , I really apreciate you taking time out to help us apprentice kiters .. Hope I can return the favor one day ...TOAD