I think you've answered your own question

Thumbs up doc
Mind, if you see a dude in serious trouble

Make sure he understands tre sacrifice

Looks like I finally agree with NoBs for once.

Let them float, but keep an eye on them. If after a while, you feel it could get dangerous, then you are duty bound to rescue.

Infact I'd say if this person died, was seriously injured i reckon a good lawyer could have your ass on a plate.

But nothing like a good long swim to wake some people up.

Eppo there are no Good Samaritan obligations, legal or otherwise that I am aware of. It's your own moral standing that makes the call to help or not.

And to further skids comment, emergency services don't really have any obligation to bring gear in either, that's what salvage and insurance are for. Whether it be a kiter and his gear in the poo, a million dollar boat sinking or a car hopelessly bogged on the beach with an incoming tide, rescue services are generally only bound to help people in trouble.

I hope one day you get in the **** and the only person on the beach to help you is a knob and maybe, just maybe you may learn a little bit of humility and not be such a dick, society will be better for it although you probably will take that as a complement. However I do agree that people need to be prepared if they put themselves into a position they need to be prepared to get themselves out of it. Though everyone may need the help of others at some stage when things go really bad, if someone was in the **** I would help them because I would like to believe if one day I was in the **** someone would help me, my personal rule is I don't kite out further than I think I can swim although that wouldn't matter if I had a broken leg I just hope I'm not out kiting with a knob.

Eppo, agreed would love to some of the new breed of kiters on the old C kites , no doubt would sort a few of them out .

On that i would still help anyone i thought was in trouble, have helped many over the last 10 years and have been helped by many as well.

Better to lose some time on the water than lose a felow kiter for good.

Eppo. I think on a technicality kiters don't fit the definition of a vessel under Dept of Transports definition. Though that may have changed?

For me, I'll bring a board in when it helps, downed kites- i'll go and check on them after a bit, if they are sorted i will monitor from afar, I've only seen one stubborn old guy refusing to acknowledge he was properly in the poo in slightly cross off through the bay getting dragged through every break from Eddie island through to SP, you can't help someone who can't see he is in a right proper pickle.

I also have no dramas leaving someone out there for a bit to think about their mistakes

If someone is in a real pickle flapping around in cross off or cross shore some distance out and can't get themselves back in, in my mind if they aren't prepared to cut their kite loose so you can tow just them in you have no moral or marine/legal responsibility to offer direct assistance. Rescuing them is a moral choice, bringing their gear in too is a luxury. Head back into the beach, make a quick call to emergency services and let them sort it.

NoBS said..

eppo said..


I remember way back in 2002 on a Airush lift 15.5m (Farqin monster of a kite) at pinnaroo, the wind suddenly went a little off shore and dropped and so did my kite. A guy came out and talked me through a few things. I always appreciated that.

And NoBs, fair dinkum mate you are a dead set cok sucker hey. Come and say hello one day will ya!

Been riding for that long and still mowing the lawn.... bahahaha

You'll keep ...lol.

eppo said...

NoBS said..

eppo said..


I remember way back in 2002 on a Airush lift 15.5m (Farqin monster of a kite) at pinnaroo, the wind suddenly went a little off shore and dropped and so did my kite. A guy came out and talked me through a few things. I always appreciated that.

And NoBs, fair dinkum mate you are a dead set cok sucker hey. Come and say hello one day will ya!

Been riding for that long and still mowing the lawn.... bahahaha

You'll keep ...lol.

I'm getting some popcorn this is making me laugh

Based on what ive read . Give me a Nancy of a kite buddy any day , some one whose got my back , for sure man . We need to look out for each other , making the odd bad choice in kiteing is part of progression. In the past two days ive helped 3 separate kiters out , all looked grateful enough to make it worthwhile, one came and shook my hand before he left the beach , in my experience the nancy is the one who pretends he has no civic sense and would rather look after himself only , could be a confidence thing disguised as indifference,

eppo said..
two line foils

sorry, i'm new here.

is this what we're talking about?






or have i missed something?

while on the note of rookie beginners.. an asian bloke rocked up to leighton on friday(20-30knot westerlys) with an 11.
He launched me on my 5m and I told him its pretty strong, then he shrugged.
kept an eye on him while he was setting up. looked over a few minutes later while he was standing on the sand and see his kite in the air, atached to his lines but not him, sailing over the dunes, over the busy road and then onto the railway.
Didnt see if anyone was injured but probably the worst rookie error I have seen.

Is it too rude to tell someone they shouldnt kite today because they look like they have all the gear but no idea?

Eppo had a whine about his new line of kites to the Seabreeze Mods..

Hence my post was deleted..

However, Eppo below is a link you may be interested.

http://www.tampax.com.au/

NoBS said..

Eppo had a whine about his new line of kites to the Seabreeze Mods..

Hence my post was deleted..

However, Eppo below is a link you may be interested.

http://www.tampax.com.au/

F
or everyones information I did not complain to anyone about NoBs posts, period. I feel the administrators made the sensible call themselves...I just can't seem to fathom what is to be gained, except some online entertainment I suppose, which is fine. Let's just get that balance between saying what you think and not getting so personal.

And NoBs, that last post was actually funny man.

I believe you should help out whenever you can. The great part of kiting is our mate ship. Look how agro surfers have become as they fight for waves. Please don't let it happen to kiting. I generally give a person time to sort themselves out and if they are still struggling lend a hand. I've never yet rescued someone that hasn't been extremely grateful. We don't get into trouble on purpose but usually learn from the mistake. Not everyone has got the skills to assist so if you have then help out. Hopefully someone will be there for you someday.