Some early pics

Shows all the new kites in here even the Park, unfortunately all the details are in Spanish...at least I think it,s Spanish.

http://www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/ailes_naish2011.pdf

2011 boards

www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/kiteboards_naish2011.pdf

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toppleover said...

Shows all the new kites in here even the Park, unfortunately all the details are in Spanish...at least I think it,s Spanish.

http://www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/ailes_naish2011.pdf

2011 boards

www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/kiteboards_naish2011.pdf

Awesome... but it's French...
>> http://www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/ailes_naish2011.pdf
>> www.thecornershopparis.fr
>> thecornershopparis.fr
>> .fr

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toppleover said...

Shows all the new kites in here even the Park, unfortunately all the details are in Spanish...at least I think it,s Spanish.

http://www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/ailes_naish2011.pdf

2011 boards

www.thecornershopparis.fr/docs/kiteboards_naish2011.pdf

yeww thats sick, where do you find that stuff....the new park looks different, i spose its guna be kinda like a freestlye non c-kite.

ALso i think thats french

considering the domain is .fr it is defaintely french

Bar is the same stupid design as it was last year;



The line that I'm pointing at is a 2mm line which suppose to handle all your body weight + board + harness + kick from the kite for a jump.

1- 2mm Line will snap
2- You will go for warranty, they will tell you that you're to heavy (85kg) for your 12m kite.
3- You'll pay $30/week to replace the line once a week or you can "FIX THE PROBLEM" your self by replacing that line with a stronger line
4- Next year they'll release the same stupid thing which means; "we don't give a sh!t about our customers and we don't even bother to test the stupid bar before we sell it"

I'm done with Nasih. I've received a lot of good advises from kiters in this forum and I felt like I owe you guys so here is my pay back.

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Very interesting to see Naish has used a mix of Pacific tribal graphic designs..

Maybe they enjoyed playing that brunnotti kiteloop game so much they thought theyd use similar graphics

Sweetaz Brunnotti Bumble bee - might be my next board after I learn how to use one



see the face in the yello area and there is also the tradition fish hook - another angle gives you a pic of west island NZ oops i meant Australia
A great symbol of pacific unity



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The bolt has the traditional wave designs

Good onya cousy Robbie Bro

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Trent R said...

Bar is the same stupid design as it was last year;



The line that I'm pointing at is a 2mm line which suppose to handle all your body weight + board + harness + kick from the kite for a jump.

1- 2mm Line will snap
2- You will go for warranty, they will tell you that you're to heavy (85kg) for your 12m kite.
3- You'll pay $30/week to replace the line once a week or you can "FIX THE PROBLEM" your self by replacing that line with a stronger line
4- Next year they'll release the same stupid thing which means; "we don't give a sh!t about our customers and we don't even bother to test the stupid bar before we sell it"

I'm done with Nasih. I've received a lot of good advises from kiters in this forum and I felt like I owe you guys so here is my pay back.

Hundreds of other kiters have had no issue with that line, how much do you weigh?

If it is a genuine warranty issue your retailer should convey all the details accurately. We have had no issues with any genuine warranty claims through Windgenuity/Naish. This can only lead me to believe one of two things
1. Your retailer has failed to convey all of the information accurately
2. The line breakage was not from "normal use" and their was another cause for the breakage.

If you still believe it was the first then please contact me and I can assist you.

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BrisKites said...

...how much do you weigh?
...
1. Your retailer has failed to convey all of the information accurately
2. The line breakage was not from "normal use" and their was another cause for the breakage.

If you still believe it was the first then please contact me and I can assist you.

I'm 85kg and it is in my first post and I had a 2010 12m Helix and it snapped 2 times, both when I was trying to boost so no "normal use" for a free style kite is it?

I've gone to my dealer here in Perth and they contacted Naish, guess what was the answer?

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Hundreds of other kiters have had no issue with that line, how much do you weigh?

85kg

If you expect that a single 2mm line should handle all the force I need to get my self out of the water and jump with it maybe you expecting too much.

I spend that $30 to replace it, it snapped again so I replaced it with a thicker line and I've sold the kite.

Instead of closing your eyes to logic defending the brand you're selling just think about my claim for 10 seconds and then maybe you can send an email to them and they replace that line before they release all their 2011 bars.

Or you can assume that I'm another forum troll and I'm trying to sand bag Naish to sell another brand

Trent i know multiple ppl who ride naish including my 105kg partner and when its windy he rides my 9m cult (i cant say it works for me cause the fact im 55kg kinda doesnt add to my argument) and has tried the 9m bolt in windy conditions and its all been fine...
i don't think windgenuity would have said it was your weight through normal usage and if it happened to multiple ppl it would have been mentioned by lots of ppl here, which i have not seen, and they would have changed it.

Definitely trying the new Charger, hope it,s one pump this time.

Is this new from Naish ..



.Cool tribal graphics.>>

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Trent R said...

I'm 85kg and it is in my first post and I had a 2010 12m Helix and it snapped 2 times, both when I was trying to boost so no "normal use" for a free style kite is it?

I've gone to my dealer here in Perth and they contacted Naish, guess what was the answer?

Hundreds of other kiters have had no issue with that line, how much do you weigh?

85kg

If you expect that a single 2mm line should handle all the force I need to get my self out of the water and jump with it maybe you expecting too much.

I spend that $30 to replace it, it snapped again so I replaced it with a thicker line and I've sold the kite.

Instead of closing your eyes to logic defending the brand you're selling just think about my claim for 10 seconds and then maybe you can send an email to them and they replace that line before they release all their 2011 bars.

Or you can assume that I'm another forum troll and I'm trying to sand bag Naish to sell another brand

No closed eyes here, if you look closely the line is thicker and stronger than the others. I am 84kg and have had no issue on my Torches, nor have any of our other Naish customers.
FYI- Using a single front line from the bar is a common practice used by a number of brands including North.

Either way I wasn't trying to argue with you, I was offering assistance.

Jason

i would say naish has one of the better quality lines after seeing what happens with some of the other big brands. change brands to cabrinah and see how u go with pulleys and lines. any decent kite shop will have it sorted for you. i have a couple 2010 naish kites and the lines are still perfect after heavy use

anyone who's been through anything knows naish is nothing. its a hard think to say cause there'e wierd seppos trying to say otherwise but they've not done a thing for a year. no way brands like north and naish should be able to peddle **** like they're trying to now. I don't care cause i wont buy it- your thoughts?

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whatiswhat said...

anyone who's been through anything knows naish is nothing. its a hard think to say cause there'e wierd seppos trying to say otherwise but they've not done a thing for a year. no way brands like north and naish should be able to peddle **** like they're trying to now. I don't care cause i wont buy it- your thoughts?

Rabble of the week award for you mate...



I have had a 10.5 helix for 10 mths, it gets flogged every time I use it. I'm 86kg and regulary max it out in over 25 knts.

I've had/have 8 kites and it's by far the best flying and built kite and bar system I've tried.

dont feed the trolls !!!

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Trent R said...I'm 85kg and it is in my first post and I had a 2010 12m Helix and it snapped 2 times, both when I was trying to boost so no "normal use" for a free style kite is it?

I've spent the last 2 years on Naish kites (mostly Torches and Alliances) and have never heard of that issue before. There's also a fair few quite enthusiastic Torch riders at my local beaches who are competing at state and national level who push their kites harder than i do, who have also had no issues. Probably best to take the discussion to another thread, but have you got a photo of how the line failed? Just thinking possibly damage to the line or fraying might have weakened it... but even still those lines are rated to... what... 400kg, probably more for that thicker section.

Anyway... back on topic...
Looking forward to seeing what the Park is like. 3 strut, 4 line, shallow canopy C'ish, hopefully with a bit of Torch-style mixed in. Should be a good kite for the GF. ;)

Hell pumped for the park!!!!!! Some fasttrack time like a month...
thanks :P

I'm disappointed the bar hasn't changed this season. The trim line doesn't last very long and I'm also not happy with the current safety system...when the forward line connected to my safety snapped I found myself in a very uncomfortable position when I had an out of control powered kite that I couldn't release because I had others downwind of me. Design needs to be improved.

hope they have fixed the leading edge porblems on the 12m torch

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Taurus said...

I'm disappointed the bar hasn't changed this season. The trim line doesn't last very long

My trim lines are fine, I used it the whole season....

only problem with the bar is that they need to change the angle of the cleet for easier sheeting of the depower ( pulling on the depower for unhooked riding takes me a couple goes, but im a bit slow..)
other than that, love '10 models so '11 can only be better

i agree i have been through 1 trim line as well and i am used to the cleat now, overall i think its one of the simpler and better designed systems and not bulky.

just get a North





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Torch said...

only problem with the bar is that they need to change the angle of the cleet for easier sheeting of the depower ( pulling on the depower for unhooked riding takes me a couple goes, but im a bit slow..)
other than that, love '10 models so '11 can only be better

The Safety attachment has been moved so it no longer aligns with the depower cleat.

great- that was one of the issues I had with last years kite, the safety and the depower getting tangled....have to question why people come on here with very few posts and bleat about a brands unreliability- especially Naish, even though their move to Sigma has been unsuccessful imo they have always produced quality gear that is strong and robust.

I have a Helix 2010 12m and my center line couldn't handle the weight and I had to replace it with a thicker line.
Airush have the same center line too.

Main reason I didn't complain till now is because the resellers are attacking the users here and accusing us for trolling. I'm just a user, I've been with Naish since 2006, I'm happy with their kites but I always had issues with Naish bars.

(Note: Torch is a 5 liner and your load will divide into 3 center lines)

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Kadkhah said...



(Note: Torch is a 5 liner and your load will divide into 3 center lines)

NAh the torch has 5 lines but they split half way up and the 5th line doesnt take load.

i just dont see the point of systems like that, much simpler and cleaner just having the lines end near the CL line. Kite feels better, lot simpler replacing broken lines as you dont need to buy brand specific kits or get lines cut to length, and safer as mentioned above with when the centre line snaps ur only attached to your two back lines or a 5th and two backs if your on a torch, where as if something snaps on a bar set up in the LF or Slingy method when one snaps you still have a front line attached and can use that to kill the power and bring your kite down.

another thing i noticed with this system is:
it makes the kite turn faster (**** for unhooking)
it makes you lose feel of the kite when unhooked (also **** for unhooking).

^not just referring to naish but to every brand which uses that y split front line system.

kite gear is at the end

nice vid