Has anybody seen Channel 9 News today. Apparently the little Yasi kiting vid from Wednesday made it on the show :), dont ask me how!
Was looking for it on the web without any luck.

This vid below was made with some pretty average footage form yesterday, 3/02. Josh kited Yasi in the early morning in ENE winds.
It was so windy that you could not stand on the beach. We could fully lean into the wind and it was holding us up for a few seconds. Just gnarly conditions and probably borderline to put a kite up but we could not resist and did it on the 4m Core XR, its a miracle that the canopy stayed in one piece.
I cant recommend kiting in a Cyclone if you do make sure you are on top of your game!

We dont want to stir the pot but similar to surfers that go out in freakishly huge waves we tried to kite the Ultimate wind.

That song is absolutely absolutely horrible. If that guy gets a gig at my local pub I'll give him whatever money is in my wallet to please be quiet.

Haha the ultimate session eh. Nice jump at the end, no kiteloops that day I suppose.
Put it down as one for the record I guess

You always get one..
screw loose or big balls - either way pretty awesome

Were can I get my 4.51 mins back,that is stupid / dangerous ,Does not even look remotely like fun ,gusty as hell ,sloppy waves and pissing down rain ,yeh fun.
Big boosts ,,,,yeh right I can boost bigger than that in 15kts.

If it was me I would have been securing my house or getting in my car and pissin off out of the cyclone area ,rather than trying to kill myself,Imagine what would have happened if you have of got into strif or hurt yourself,,,good luck finding an ambulance or hospital open....
there is a law now where police can arrest you for dangerous / stupid behaviour ie swimming is flood swollen creeks, kite surfing in a cyclone ect.....


flame away noobs

Not sure how to say what I want to say here without sounding like the "moral police" on this forum that tend to frustrate me a great deal. But....

I don't think you can even compare yourselves to those that surf big waves. When those guys go out they have others on jet skis in a position to get in and help where they can. Also, the guys don't just jump in, they'll assess the waves before paddling/towing in. The waves are more predictable than cyclonic winds.

In this instance you go out (all was good in the end obviously) but if it had gone pear shaped then you'd be crying for help from already overstretched emergency services. And they'd need to come and bail you lot out because you "chose" to put yourselves in a compromising position as opposed to those that found themselves in one unexpectedly. Bit like that group of 6 adults that stayed at a location and when it was all too late cried for help cause nobody warned them, and then cried some more cause the emergency services wouldn't attend. Why, cause they too were morons.

If you don't want to stir the pot as you claim then I suggest you keep these vids for your home movie collection. At least you got the title right.

only thing wrong with this was his lines were too long and he wasnt looping

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fozzy said...

Not sure how to say what I want to say here without sounding like the "moral police" on this forum that tend to frustrate me a great deal. But....

I don't think you can even compare yourselves to those that surf big waves. When those guys go out they have others on jet skis in a position to get in and help where they can. Also, the guys don't just jump in, they'll assess the waves before paddling/towing in. The waves are more predictable than cyclonic winds.

In this instance you go out (all was good in the end obviously) but if it had gone pear shaped then you'd be crying for help from already overstretched emergency services. And they'd need to come and bail you lot out because you "chose" to put yourselves in a compromising position as opposed to those that found themselves in one unexpectedly. Bit like that group of 6 adults that stayed at a location and when it was all too late cried for help cause nobody warned them, and then cried some more cause the emergency services wouldn't attend. Why, cause they too were morons.

If you don't want to stir the pot as you claim then I suggest you keep these vids for your home movie collection. At least you got the title right.

You sound like a sanctimonious do gooder, a person that gives the rest of us the ****s by weilding their authority over others, often says 'the rules are the rules', and 'if you dont break the rules then you have nothing to worry about Sir'. Over the course of history people with this inclination have been recruited by Tyrants, Despots and murderous regimes to spy on their neighbours and act as a civilian policing force.

what a bunch of bitching noobs- you girls seen Stormjeez?

when else are you supposed to use a 4m kite?

Good onya guys for giving it a crack.

@ kitelooper 1 - hahaha, and you sound like your simply dribbling s*&t.

Actually strawb, my comments come off the back of working full time for the last 21 years in the emergency services whereby I have on countless occasions, had to both coordinate searches and rescue individuals who have done things of this nature.

Quite the opposite to being a henchman in a tyrannical regime I would have thought.

But as I have experienced for years now, it's in fact people like you that bleat and carry on about how people like me interfere, and then you jump up and down wondering where we are when suddenly you need us. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury to pick and chose those whom I'll assist. It comes with the territory, otherwise my colleagues and I would be happy to leave people such as you to take care of yourselves, which through my experience, you are generally not capable of doing.

on ya marvin!! i would have given it a crack if i was there with you.

Each to their own. We live in a society where individual responsibility has been diminished through following the rapidly disintegrating American model of litigation heaven, where the only ones that win are the lawyers and people not taking responsibility for their actions.

...and America is doing sooooo well.

You wanna kite those winds, those conditions, do it. You die or worse end up paralysed, your choice!

From my own perspective, stupid, stupid, stupid!

But crew will always push the limits, it's human nature, so good on ya!

And you big brother dudes..... piss off. I mean it, please get off this forum and piss off.

Eppo, I'm figuring that the "big brother" comments are pretty much aimed at me so I will say this and then take your advice, cause truth be known I don't care that much either.

I'm not trying to be big brother. I'm not for one minute talking regulation and all the other rubbish that this type of feat normally attracts. I guess I'm looking at it purely from the impact that this has on others. Personally I couldn't care less if they injured (or worse) themselves either but inevitably, were it to happen it would require a response from services stretched to the hilt dealing with "genuine" people in need.

I agree with you. You want to do this, knock yourselves out, just don't cry for help if it does go wrong.

And posting up a vid about it is simply inviting this banter. Or was the true reason a shameless plug for the strength of a Core kite canopy.

First line of the song, 'my father was an architect ... '. Hard core.

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fozzy said...

Eppo, I'm figuring that the "big brother" comments are pretty much aimed at me so I will say this and then take your advice, cause truth be known I don't care that much either.

I'm not trying to be big brother. I'm not for one minute talking regulation and all the other rubbish that this type of feat normally attracts. I guess I'm looking at it purely from the impact that this has on others. Personally I couldn't care less if they injured (or worse) themselves either but inevitably, were it to happen it would require a response from services stretched to the hilt dealing with "genuine" people in need.

I agree with you. You want to do this, knock yourselves out, just don't cry for help if it does go wrong.

And posting up a vid about it is simply inviting this banter. Or was the true reason a shameless plug for the strength of a Core kite canopy.

Step back and look at it from the other side.........
Have been kiting for many years with lots of experience in high winds, Have crew on the beach ready to help, Have a kite that's right for the conditions.
Why wouldn't you give it a go?
Yeah **** can go wrong, he could have got hit in the head by a coconut.
He might of had a Cabrihna and ended up in a tree.

Would you be saying the same sh1t if it were an equally dangerous video of some guys snowkiting in the back country, with everyone drooling at how good it looks?

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fozzy said...

Eppo, I'm figuring that the "big brother" comments are pretty much aimed at me so I will say this and then take your advice, cause truth be known I don't care that much either.

I'm not trying to be big brother. I'm not for one minute talking regulation and all the other rubbish that this type of feat normally attracts. I guess I'm looking at it purely from the impact that this has on others. Personally I couldn't care less if they injured (or worse) themselves either but inevitably, were it to happen it would require a response from services stretched to the hilt dealing with "genuine" people in need.

I agree with you. You want to do this, knock yourselves out, just don't cry for help if it does go wrong.

And posting up a vid about it is simply inviting this banter. Or was the true reason a shameless plug for the strength of a Core kite canopy.

Step back and look at it from the other side.........
Have been kiting for many years with lots of experience in high winds, Have crew on the beach ready to help, Have a kite that's right for the conditions.
Why wouldn't you give it a go?
Yeah **** can go wrong, he could have got hit in the head by a coconut.
He might of had a Cabrihna and ended up in a tree.

Would you be saying the same sh1t if it were an equally dangerous video of some guys snowkiting in the back country, with everyone drooling at how good it looks?

I'm 100% in agreement with Fozzy. Emergency services are stretched to the limit and here you have people going out in unpredictable conditions putting themselves at risk. Its not the smartest move so if you're looking for people to be impressed with your efforts, I'm not one of them.

By your admission you were beyond the limits and the gusts were hectic. Irrespective of your kiting level, when you know there are 150knot winds headed your direction, why would you consider doing this?

Call them the moral police, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, kiters as a whole will cop a bad rap over this and kiters in general will be seen as irresponsible morons, not just you. As someone said, its one thing to go out in a carefully planned stunt, its another to go out and just do something stupid.

If you're wondering why kiting is banned in winds over 25 knots in Belgium, this is a good example of giving them ammunition for it. At least Len10 looks like he's 100% in control in StormJees, this just looks like someone trying their hardest to survive and he's probably smart enough to be sitting in a pub when its 60 knots.

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fozzy said...

Eppo, I'm figuring that the "big brother" comments are pretty much aimed at me so I will say this and then take your advice, cause truth be known I don't care that much either.

I'm not trying to be big brother. I'm not for one minute talking regulation and all the other rubbish that this type of feat normally attracts. I guess I'm looking at it purely from the impact that this has on others. Personally I couldn't care less if they injured (or worse) themselves either but inevitably, were it to happen it would require a response from services stretched to the hilt dealing with "genuine" people in need.

I agree with you. You want to do this, knock yourselves out, just don't cry for help if it does go wrong.

And posting up a vid about it is simply inviting this banter. Or was the true reason a shameless plug for the strength of a Core kite canopy.

Fozzy agree with everything you have said in reply. I personally think stupid, stupid, stupid. But that being said, man will always push the limits. The vid thing the same sentiment. But I suppose there is a side of me that is sick of getting institutionalised and castrated every farqin day, and this part of me loves what they have done.

On the other hand, as someone has said, regulate or be regulated. Humans my man, gods greatest farqin joke of all.

The 'piss off' was a little too strong, my sincere apologies fozzy.

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maybe it wasn't actually 70 knots.....


BOOOM!

Hey all you negative nellies, no need to get your knickers all in a knot.

Yeah cyclones are unpredictable but if you have a close look at the videos, you will see that they went kiting well before and well after the actual cyclone hit. Also it hit well north of Townsville so the winds at those times were not that extreme (Townsville only got cat2 winds late at night).

Below are the wind readings at the time of the second video from townsville airport which is 5km away from beach:
03/09:00am... 27.2 20.7 24.0 83 2.2 ENE 65 87 35 47 1004.1 1004.0 -
03/08:30am 26.9 19.8 24.2 85 1.9 ENE 69 95 37 51 1003.8 - -
03/08:16am 26.7 19.4 24.2 86 1.7 ENE 70 91 38 49 1003.4 - -
03/08:01am 26.8 19.5 24.2 86 1.8 ENE 70 89 38 48 1003.1 - -
03/08:00am 26.7 19.1 24.4 87 1.6 ENE 72 89 39 48 1003.0 - -
03/07:40am 27.1 18.7 24.4 85 1.9 ENE 76 98 41 53 1002.2 - 150.2
03/07:39am 27.1 18.7 24.4 85 1.9 ENE 76 98 41 53 1002.2 - -
03/07:30am 27.1 19.0 24.2 84 2.0 ENE 74 98 40 53 1001.

I would say those are pretty ok 4m conditions. Also who hasnt kited overpowered in gusty winds? I know I have done it many times and come out of it just fine, maybe even having had a little fun.

Both guys are very experienced kiters who would definately have assessed the conditions before heading out, hence the 4m kite, not a 9m. As for safety, they went with a group and all new kites come with excellent safety systems that anyone who knows their ass from their face could operate. If something went wrong they could cut loose.

Kiting is an extreme sport so occasionally you have to get extreme.

Props to psylor.

P.S. What these guys did was much safer then the idiot I saw out on his ladder trying to nail down his roof during the storm.

well said RachyB all that is needed is a bit of perspective,its easy to get all excited an over the top with safety in the face of "the biggest cyclone ever to hit QLD"
4m kite, people around to help etc etc all good !

Im a noob and I cant wait to try that. Tee-Hee!

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wishy said...

That song is absolutely absolutely horrible. If that guy gets a gig at my local pub I'll give him whatever money is in my wallet to please be quiet.

dude, listen to the words, thats gold, laughed my tits off

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RachyB said...

Hey all you negative nellies, no need to get your knickers all in a knot.

Yeah cyclones are unpredictable but if you have a close look at the videos, you will see that they went kiting well before and well after the actual cyclone hit. Also it hit well north of Townsville so the winds at those times were not that extreme (Townsville only got cat2 winds late at night).

Below are the wind readings at the time of the second video from townsville airport which is 5km away from beach:
03/09:00am... 27.2 20.7 24.0 83 2.2 ENE 65 87 35 47 1004.1 1004.0 -
03/08:30am 26.9 19.8 24.2 85 1.9 ENE 69 95 37 51 1003.8 - -
03/08:16am 26.7 19.4 24.2 86 1.7 ENE 70 91 38 49 1003.4 - -
03/08:01am 26.8 19.5 24.2 86 1.8 ENE 70 89 38 48 1003.1 - -
03/08:00am 26.7 19.1 24.4 87 1.6 ENE 72 89 39 48 1003.0 - -
03/07:40am 27.1 18.7 24.4 85 1.9 ENE 76 98 41 53 1002.2 - 150.2
03/07:39am 27.1 18.7 24.4 85 1.9 ENE 76 98 41 53 1002.2 - -
03/07:30am 27.1 19.0 24.2 84 2.0 ENE 74 98 40 53 1001.

I would say those are pretty ok 4m conditions. Also who hasnt kited overpowered in gusty winds? I know I have done it many times and come out of it just fine, maybe even having had a little fun.

Both guys are very experienced kiters who would definately have assessed the conditions before heading out, hence the 4m kite, not a 9m. As for safety, they went with a group and all new kites come with excellent safety systems that anyone who knows their ass from their face could operate. If something went wrong they could cut loose.

Kiting is an extreme sport so occasionally you have to get extreme.

Props to psylor.

P.S. What these guys did was much safer then the idiot I saw out on his ladder trying to nail down his roof during the storm.

your first vid of kiting on yasi on tuesday afternoon u claimed 60 knots when the townsville airport showed it steadily building and only just cracking 40 knots in the gusts by 5pm! at 4pm it was 27 - 36

the second video claims 70 knots. look at the right hand column of numbers in your paste from BOM. 40 knots nudgeing 50 in a gust. where do you get 70 knots from? gusts to 50 maybe.. you are talking shxt. the left hand set are numbers are KPH

what you did was silly, not because it was overly dangerous, but because other people (public) and media would perceive it as dangerous and portray kitesurfers in a bad light, further endangering the sensitive palleranda access / powerline issue just so you could puff your chests out and bignote yourselves. What if the ergon management freak out? They are probably a bit twitchy at the moment. You could have gone to bushland or somewhere less sensitive away from power lines.

surely you knew the media would grab a hold of something like that?

the music reminds me of rocking the suburbs by ben folds
"you don't know what it's like, being male middle class and white"

guys relax! 50knt or 70 knt who cares, either way i find awesome going out when u know there is a massive storm just a few kms away...some people needs adrenaline, other instead prefer safety; both ways are ok. the natural response to threatening event is the flight(away) or fight response. shame they did not have a go pro...

any way, i would have been happy to join u... maybe even with a bigger kite

imagine if this pussies saw someone base jump!!End of the world shiat.

70 knots is 130 km hr. The windiest place I have lived was in Wellington, NZ, and when it blows 50 knots there you can't walk in a straight line. I reckon you wouldn't be able to walk with a kite in 70 knots, and probably your kite would get shredded pretty quick!

It obviously wasn't too windy for a 4m kite though...

In 70 knots there are large sheets of water tearing off the surface of the ocean, and penguins generate sufficient lift with their wings to fly around like other birds

In 70 knts you wouldn't be able to hear the music, its totally drowning out the wind.

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That song is absolutely absolutely horrible. If that guy gets a gig at my local pub I'll give him whatever money is in my wallet to please be quiet.

I guess Michael Jackson or Elton John are more your style?

@ Wishy stop whinging about the track or the windspeed both are pretty unique things for NQ, thats prolly why you dont get it bud.

@ fozzy, mofo (does that stand for motherfu****?), saffer and other concerned lads- thanx for your morals, advice and concerns but we knew what we were doing. in the worst case the kite would have been gone.

@ psylor, kiterzac, sleek, clockout, hotballs, castanza, blownaway, dnd, turtle hunter, kitelooper, marty..
lets push limits and keep doing things that makes kiting an extreme sport. perhaps this is evolution at work and the fittest will survive but goodness only knows what mad things we will try to do to get and next five minutes of fame bahahaha

BTW the vids both got into youtubes top 10 and Seabreeze reckoned with less cursing in soundtrack we would have been famous. lol