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23 Aug 2014 10:27am
It's hard to get past all the marketing guff, What do I need to buy that will let me kite in 7 knot winds?

I'm ~85kg and have a 2012 12m Fuse kite and Cabrinha Chopstick 144 twintip. It's usually not a lot of fun unless there is whitecaps and 15-20knot winds. I can sucessfully tack or jib but it's been ages since there was enough wind to attempt jumps (usually at Elliot heads Bargara).

Should I just persist till I get better and can make use of sub 15knot winds?

Sholuld I buy an extra kite, it seems that the larger the kite is the more wind it can catch and the less knots I'll need.

Should I buy a different board? would it be easier with a larger or a race style board? So that there is less drag on the water once I'm moving.

Or do I just have to lose weight?

Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
23 Aug 2014 11:00am
Buy a landboard and kite on the hard sand on the beach in those winds. 7 knots is pointless on the water unless your highly skilled with thousands of dollars of monster kite and hydrofoil.
doycle
doycle
NSW
89 posts
NSW, 89 posts
23 Aug 2014 1:24pm
7 knots is certainly kite-able if you are experienced. You just have to accept that if the kite hits the water you'll be swimming in.

Either a proper course raceboard with big fins and a 17/18/19m kite.

Or a Hydrofoil and an efficient 13/14m kite.

Hydrofoils take a bit more learning than the raceboard but for Joe Blogs I would highly recommend the hydrofoil as IMO much more fun and versatile

If not overly experienced best option for would probs be a bigger kite (16/17/18m) which might get you going in around 10 knots
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
23 Aug 2014 11:54am
It's natural to want to get out in the lightest whiff of wind,especially when your new to the sport or starved of wind, also you need to be pretty skilled in kiting below 10knts, even more skilled in relaunching sub 10, I've been kiting a fair while and have accepted that for my needs I don't get excited until 13 knts even on a 17mtr lw kite,
diamond2001
diamond2001
WA
436 posts
WA, 436 posts
23 Aug 2014 2:05pm
Get a SUP!
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
23 Aug 2014 4:09pm
raskalnickoff said..
It's hard to get past all the marketing guff, What do I need to buy that will let me kite in 7 knot winds?

I'm ~85kg and have a 2012 12m Fuse kite and Cabrinha Chopstick 144 twintip. It's usually not a lot of fun unless there is whitecaps and 15-20knot winds. I can sucessfully tack or jib but it's been ages since there was enough wind to attempt jumps (usually at Elliot heads Bargara).

Should I just persist till I get better and can make use of sub 15knot winds?

Sholuld I buy an extra kite, it seems that the larger the kite is the more wind it can catch and the less knots I'll need.

Should I buy a different board? would it be easier with a larger or a race style board? So that there is less drag on the water once I'm moving.

Or do I just have to lose weight?



You qld'ers get a lot of pretty light wind up that way. If I was you I would invest in a user friendly light wind specific kite like an ozone zepher and a light wind twin tip. That should get you out having fun from around ten knots once you get to an intermediate level. Light wind kiting is a skill in itself that takes time to master. Forget the race board unless you want to race of course, but there are user freindly directional race style boards out there like the airrush sector series if your inclined that way.
glasstraxx
glasstraxx
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
23 Aug 2014 3:25pm
cauncy said..
It's natural to want to get out in the lightest whiff of wind,especially when your new to the sport or starved of wind, also you need to be pretty skilled in kiting below 10knts, even more skilled in relaunching sub 10, I've been kiting a fair while and have accepted that for my needs I don't get excited until 13 knts even on a 17mtr lw kite,




cauncy right on the money here... im 85 kg and have a zephyr 17m and a 135x42 TT... cant even get going until 12knots..then i dont even enjoy it much as i am always fighting to get back upwind after a boost. i guess i could add a second light wind board but i dont think its worth chasing!
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
23 Aug 2014 9:30pm
A genuine 7 knots is very light. You can see here that they waited until they were consistently getting 7 knots before they would start the racing. These are the best in the world, using 190cm by 70cm 85+litre boards and 18m foil kites.

internationalkiteboarding.org/index.php/the-class/news-channels/21827-2014-formula-kite-world-championships-day-3

With less skill it would be best to have at least that.

At least with a board that size, you can paddle back in if the wind stops.
Or - like at 40 seconds into this video, if you are light enough, you can stand on the board and hold the bridle of the kite to self-rescue.

#t=43
snalberski
snalberski
WA
858 posts
WA, 858 posts
24 Aug 2014 12:17am
raskalnickoff said..
It's hard to get past all the marketing guff, What do I need to buy that will let me kite in 7 knot winds?




A Genie or a huge wind machine
4 posts
24 Aug 2014 6:35am
I hadent actually heared about the hydrofoils before, though I havent yet been to Lake Cootharaba, I'm mostly in really shallow water so I'l give that suggestion a miss.

So it sounds like bigger is better and I should get a new kite before I try a new board. Though if im patients I'd get better at it reguardless.

Thats left me looking at the Ozone Chrono/Zephyr, seems that between all the 17m kites most people mention an Ozone as being a bit better.
kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
QLD, 1694 posts
24 Aug 2014 8:34pm
2 words bro, "runout tide". It will give you more apparent wind. I was out today with an 11m c kite in 10-13 knots with a runout and had a ball
gunny11
gunny11
VIC
51 posts
VIC, 51 posts
24 Aug 2014 8:48pm
Get a small kite for big wind days. more fun - less swimming.



Phezulu1
Phezulu1
WA
66 posts
WA, 66 posts
24 Aug 2014 9:00pm






7 knots probably not, but kited this through 5-6PM no problem -16m Rhino 2006 (bought for $40) and homemade hydrofoil, about 100kg. Actually managed to get overpowered. 13 knots and I'd be in trouble
scubaste
scubaste
WA
210 posts
WA, 210 posts
25 Aug 2014 2:24pm
+1 For foilboard
Check this geeza out, very light wind, better than standing on the beach cause there's not enough wind for ya twinnie.


Nissey
Nissey
VIC
64 posts
VIC, 64 posts
25 Aug 2014 10:04pm
What about the new North juice 15m. Any one now how hard this will be to fly in under 12 knot
Brohan
Brohan
VIC
528 posts
VIC, 528 posts
25 Aug 2014 10:44pm
I'm 85kgs and have a 137 board and I find that around 15 knots is kinda boring on a tt, 20+ is good, I bought a 15m core xr2 and a north wam for less windy days can get going in 9-10 knots (not that it's much fun). I'd buy a surfboard and try that in 15 knots, I find it funner on the SB now and hardly use my tt unless the wind pick up! I normally use my 10m xr3 and can get going on 12 knots on my sb.
castill0jf
castill0jf
VIC
563 posts
VIC, 563 posts
26 Aug 2014 4:32am
if the wind is always below 10 knots then get a big kite and a big SUP, twintip or surfboard. The light wind kites should not be heavy if not it will drop of the sky. I think below 4 kilos is best. Do NOT buy (unless you have lots of $) a new kite because you can find second hand kites in good shape for 1/2 of the price. I ride a 14 meter Naish Ride on a SUP below 7 knots. I can mow the lawn and ride small waves.
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