What a great day ! Thanks to the event organizers, and the competitors for making it such a great event !

Anyone have any links to photo's /video or results?

Nick

Results from the windsurfing section.
www.bluechipresults.com.au/Results.aspx?CId=11&RId=795&EId=1

The paddlers certainly set really high standards.

Truly amazing event organisation from the Lancelin Ocean Classic team and Project 3. Everything was compressed into one day as we didn't get wind until today. The race was amazingly well run and heaps of fun to participate in.
There is something strange with the results that have been posted that I do not understand though?
www.bluechipresults.com.au/Results.aspx?CId=11&RId=795&EId=1

Olly Bridge was outright winner of the event and he covered the course in 26.08 and had an average speed of 45.9kph, the top windsurfer Cyril Moussilmani covered the course in 29.42 and had an average speed of 52.5kph. When you calculate out the distances the windsurfers seem to have had a higher top speed and finished more than 3.5mins after the first kiter, and if you calculate the distances covered there are about 5klms difference, yet we both covered the same course???

They didn't cover the same course, the kiters started downwind (and out to sea) from the beach that the windsurfers started from, as well as finished on a line at sea instead of the beach. The first mark for the kiters was slightly less far out to sea as well.

I agree that the total distance difference wouldn't be 5 kms though, more like 1 km. Admittedly I didn't see the finish line for the kiters, was more concentrating on where the frig to sail to as it was different to last year!

^^^ agreed
It is the race against each other which really isn't.

Kinda.

I am in awe of those dudes who paddled a sea kayak from Guilderton to Lano, 5hrs of paddle. Geez

Mmm the timing does sound strange.

The finish would have been about the same for kiters and windsurfers, although I (on a small kite, way too small, I blew it) would have been faster if I had the windsurfers finish, we had to turn and go downwind to finish which slowed me right down, I think all the kiters would have been faster if they could have held there line straight to the beach.

The start though favoured the kiters as we had a water start so were already moving and up to speed a couple of hundred meters offshore when the windsurfers were still on the beach, also the first mark was different for the kiters and windsurfers and the windsurfers had to go slightly further out.

This was designed to try to spread the field and avoid conflict but I don't think it was a such a good idea.

I was probably around 10-15th of the kiters coming up to the first mark and as I approached it all of a sudden there was the first couple of windsurfers coming in at a rapid pace at 90 degrees from port side.
I was pretty lucky as I only had to dodge the first few windsurfers but I would imagine it would have got quite hectic shortly after as there was a heap of windsurfers rounding the mark just a few seconds later.

IMO they should have the same marks for all and as for the start if there was a wide enough area surely we could all start at the same time.
Just have two marks a couple of hundred metres out (or even a k out) and you can elect to either start from the beach and time your run or gybe back and forward till the hooter goes.
I would love to see a race where it was the same time, distance and markers for all.
This would probably require a finish line on the water or just a gate on the beach (no arch, so you can run through with your kite in the air)

All in all it was pretty close between the top kiters and windsurfers really and it was nice to be able to see the next mark (boat) each time you rounded one.

RaceQs Track from yesterday.Lads with GPS phones and watches etc will be adding track over the coming days.raceqs.com/regattas/49691

Torvar, Andy Cooksey & Alty headed back up to ledge after race, track on the 2nd kite race.

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nebbian said..
They didn't cover the same course, the kiters started downwind (and out to sea) from the beach that the windsurfers started from, as well as finished on a line at sea instead of the beach. The first mark for the kiters was slightly less far out to sea as well.

I agree that the total distance difference wouldn't be 5 kms though, more like 1 km. Admittedly I didn't see the finish line for the kiters, was more concentrating on where the frig to sail to as it was different to last year!

Lets see the GPS tracks on raceqs.com/regattas/49691 and lets see how different the course were.
The kites had a down ind finish to offset the down wind start.The extra distance to the first mark, well over 3 minutes between 1st kite & 1st windsurfer.... and maybe only a few hundred meters difference in course length.

id suggest the slightly shorter course might account for well under a minute of race time for the front runners but though the traditional beach start verses the kiters start made more of a difference. Either way it doesn't account For the 3 minutes between the leading kiters and windsurfers. Geez those boys were fast!! And the upwind back to Ledge straight after for the four guys!

First year with a 'combined' race and it seemed to work, lessons still to be learnt and I'm sure the organisers have already got a list of things to consider from the hot debrief straight after the race. Bigger and better next year!

i knew all this bollox would come out . If it's soo important to the windsurfers then get the top three kiters and top three polie's . All start from the beach and do the same start and i cansafely say i think olly would still beat the first windsurfers. He is so freakin quick on that slalom board

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MaxVMGRacing said..

Lets see the GPS tracks on raceqs.com/regattas/49691

Has been updated for a Kite & Windsurfer division

Hi Guys , first time for me at this event. A mate was in the kite marathon so we made a day trip of it to support and had a kite as well ( and a few bevs at the pub).

Just want to say that we had a really fantastic day. Had a real festival atmosphere ... well done to the organisers !! Will def be back next year ....

That website is cool !

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dusta said..
i knew all this bollox would come out . If it's soo important to the windsurfers then get the top three kiters and top three polie's . All start from the beach and do the same start and i cansafely say i think olly would still beat the first windsurfers. He is so freakin quick on that slalom board

I don't see any windsurfers in this thread who think it's "soo important"?

(btw I kite too)

no but i heard many a grumble from polies at the event village .

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MaxVMGRacing said..
RaceQs Track from yesterday.Lads with GPS phones and watches etc will be adding track over the coming days.raceqs.com/regattas/49691

Torvar, Andy Cooksey & Alty headed back up to ledge after race, track on the 2nd kite race.

Wow thats cool.
I'm a newby to this technology but just added my track (Kent).
It looks like I jumped the start in the replay, I actually had a countdown timer set on my gps but got distracted at the start and didn't push the start button at the correct time.
I will have a bit more of a play with it but it doesn't appear I have all the stats (VMG SOG etc) that Cooksey or James have?
Not sure what is wrong or what file format is best to use i.e. .tcx, .gpx etc
I have a Garmin 910XT.

P.S. I'm sure I was waving my little 10 Nitro around way more than it looks in the replay

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tightlines said..

MaxVMGRacing said..
RaceQs Track from yesterday.Lads with GPS phones and watches etc will be adding track over the coming days.raceqs.com/regattas/49691

Torvar, Andy Cooksey & Alty headed back up to ledge after race, track on the 2nd kite race.

Wow thats cool.
I'm a newby to this technology but just added my track (Kent).
It looks like I jumped the start in the replay, I actually had a countdown timer set on my gps but got distracted at the start and didn't push the start button at the correct time.
I will have a bit more of a play with it but it doesn't appear I have all the stats (VMG SOG etc) that Cooksey or James have?
Not sure what is wrong or what file format is best to use i.e. .tcx, .gpx etc
I have a Garmin 910XT.

P.S. I'm sure I was waving my little 10 Nitro around way more than it looks in the replay

I dont think the the windsurfers are going to be adding GPS tracks by the looks of it, so ive moved the start further out so that it includes you for the rest of the race, this should now give you all the stats.

Cool, it looks like a great site I will have a better look when I have time.

Post it in this Thread Andrew
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Western-Australia/Ledge-to-Lano-Sunday/?page=2

Got a few PM's asking how to get your GPS track into RaceQS

1. Got to raceqs.com/ and click on SignUp to create a new account/profile, if using your facebook profofile takes only a few seconds.
2. log in.
3. Once logged in click on the My Journal Tab, and on the left hand side is a "Upload GPS file", and upload file :)4. Your DONE!
It adds your GPS track to your profile, if you track is within the event area for the event time, its automatically added to the Event website.
RaceQS is a brilliant crowdsourced platform, that anybody can use for free. See how you did leg by leg.If you use a water proof mobile, just down load the app and either live stream your track or upload when you back to the beach. Where did they gain on you and why, where have you got them beat and how can you leverage that advantage further.Excellent training tool!!Enjoy!

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nebbian said..
They didn't cover the same course, the kiters started downwind (and out to sea) from the beach that the windsurfers started from, as well as finished on a line at sea instead of the beach. The first mark for the kiters was slightly less far out to sea as well.

I agree that the total distance difference wouldn't be 5 kms though, more like 1 km. Admittedly I didn't see the finish line for the kiters, was more concentrating on where the frig to sail to as it was different to last year!

You will notice now...

www.bluechipresults.com.au/Results.aspx?CId=11&RId=795

They have change the results so that the outcome of pace is a tad more accurate. The total distance now covered by Kiters now reads 25 k's with a pace set by Oliver Bridge of 57.4 km/h, compared to windsurfers of 24.9 k's as distance covered, and a top pace set by Cyril MOUSSILMANI of 50.3km/h.

Sounds fair enough. 100meter head start at the beach was about right, and other than that the course was virtually the same, except the 1st mark, which may have added 20 meters or so.

Just spoke with BlueChip, they looking into the distances. Unless everybody got lost on the way its closer to 20km for kites and just under 19km for windsurfers.

Man those Foil Boards/Kites are fast going by RaceQS Cooksey was about 1km in front of Kent who is no slouch at the first mark.

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Weta said..
Man those Foil Boards/Kites are fast going by RaceQS Cooksey was about 1km in front of Kent who is no slouch at the first mark.

They were fast thats for sure but I was a slouch on Sunday, way way underpowered and had to work my kite like crazy the whole way.
I so wanted to change up to a bigger kite before the start but I was on my own and my car was too far away.