Hello Guys,
I've been kiting for a couple of years and use mostly a 10m Edge. I have a lot of fun with that kite especially with the high floaty jumps. I am at the point where I want to learn kite loops. It seems that people are advising to use a kite like the catalyst or a C shape kite to learn this move. However I would rather not spend to buy another kite if not necessary.
What do you recommend? Have some people here use the Edge? How easy is it to loop them? How can I expect with trying on this kite? Do i have more chance to get injured because of more power/less lift during the loop? Also any technical tip is welcome!

... I reckon go for it, why not, all kites loop, its just what sort of loop you want out of it to whether its good enough or not!

If anything, my guess is the Edge might be too quick and not powerful enough after a while so once you got it happening, it might not be aggressive enough so look at another kite then.

Have fun finding out for yourself!

cheers,

Robbie

Dont be limited to what people on here say.

Just give it a crack.

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Underoath said..
Dont be limited to what people on here say.

Just give it a crack.

Yup. Modify the technique a bit and it should work. 10m should be ok, my 10m XB is ok-ish...

Try longer lines if it's not getting around nicely -- gives the kite more window for it to loop in.

Your 10 metre is more than fast enough to kiteloop. It takes courage and commitment once you start the loop you cant change your mind. Jump minimum of 3-4 metres high. Pull your bar on one side eg the direction you want your kite to loop with both hands. If you use only one hand you risk body rotation. Watch your kite complete the loop eg a full 360 degrees. Spot your landing land with your board pointing directly downwind. Land and redirect your kite to the direction you want to go. Let go of the bar and it will spin to unwind your steering lines. Manually unwind your centre lines if you have the megatron quick release/chickenloop.

What dolphins said....

When learning. Get to the apex of your jump and wait a second before you loop it. Commit to the loop.This is a helicopter loop and are a lot less agressive and more forgiving than a proper kiteloop as your kite will loop over your head rather than more horozontally. Crashing when doing these is as bad as a normal jump. Once you have these dialled in loop earlier and earlier until you start coming down hard then remember to bumcheck hard landings (lift your board up, crunch into a ball and get an emema without a wetsuit) to avoid injury.

I had this thread just for this, can't find it, maybe deleted? I am not understanding search engine good enough.

U have 2 episodes on YT explaining it noob style with nice camera angles. Helped me understand it alot. E I and II will cover u, III is on the way for a longer time. Can't wait for it.

Just give it a crack bud. Ive run core riot xr3s and loop them everytime i go out. This summer will be my 3rd season. I started by doing waterstart kiteloops to get used to the downwind pull. Then tried them while riding along, now i bust backloop kiteloops out every time im out. I have found its better with a bigger kite as they loop slower and down pull downwind as hard and do them in lighter wind at first wirh the kite depowered until u get the feel then slowly increase the power. Also its better to do them at the top of the jump just when u start to come down as it wont pull u up in the air as it loops. But get the feel for them with waterstarts first and fo from there. Once u start the loop u gotta finish it too

I wish someone had have told me this ages ago - if your going to throw a big loop, look at your kite and turn your body to face the direction of the pull. When it loops, it pulls straight downwind and will pull your body slightly in the opposite direction. for you turn your body to face the way it pulls and look at the kite looping in front of you, you should land it.

Obviously you're gonna want to loop in the kite you already own but these are probably the worst kite for this trick. The Edge is a big stable Wing that floats you for ever in a massive boost which is the exact opposite to a fast twitchy kite that pivot turns.
If you loop too slowly ( you will!) you'll catch the wing tip on the water and crash out
Loops are heaps of fun but you may find you blame yourself for crashing them so often, but really a different style of kite suits this trick a LOT more

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Kamikuza said..

Underoath said..
Dont be limited to what people on here say.

Just give it a crack.

Yup. Modify the technique a bit and it should work. 10m should be ok, my 10m XB is ok-ish...

Try longer lines if it's not getting around nicely -- gives the kite more window for it to loop in.

You want shorter lines to loop it faster - longer ones will give it more window to generate way more power

youll be fine to learn looping on your edge. start of with downloops to get the hang of it. these are great for trasnitions then you can try front roll downloop which feel great. after that give a kite loop ago without jumping. after you got that sussed do a jump and loop it on the way down. i mastered all this on a 17m. you caneven then do a back roll and pull hard on the decent...

next stage for me is a proper kite loop which im still a bit weiry of... i think if your aim to loop at the apex be prepared for the horizontal pull and make sure you body is facing downwind so you dont get pulled unexpectedely like kemp90 says. once you at this stage you might wanna look for a more C shaped kite like a park, rpm or Ts.


but yeh dont be afrtaid of starting to learn on the edge i know my zephyr is great fun for it...

I'm riding Edges and will quite happily spend all day every day trying to fly but after a few painful crashes on a previous kite I never got into looping. After reading this thread, watching the vid posted and rigging a wee bit smaller today, I spent an hour on the water looping. Then I figured f*@k it, popped a small jump and fish-poled the bar. I may have landed on my arse but I'm counting it as my first successful loop.

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flyingcab said...

Kamikuza said..

Underoath said..
Dont be limited to what people on here say.

Just give it a crack.

Yup. Modify the technique a bit and it should work. 10m should be ok, my 10m XB is ok-ish...

Try longer lines if it's not getting around nicely -- gives the kite more window for it to loop in.

You want shorter lines to loop it faster - longer ones will give it more window to generate way more power

That's the idea

With the flat bow kites, starting to learn in lighter wind, you can loop the kite in the upper part of the window and give the kite time to get the whole way around without stalling, and generate a little lift rather than horizontal pull... 10m should be fast enough not to bother with longer lines, but it's better to have them with the bigger bows.