Listen to Elmo. Dont go there. Its a scary place guarded by a big green rocky seaweed monster. Stay away.

Just to back up Elmo, this is a serious safety issue, and prevention is better than cure.

So Guyz, in the interests of safety, It would be really helpful and Windsurfers of WA would be eternally grateful if you guyz could help us out on this one, and we would go out of our way to help you guyz out, if you guyz ever needed our support on a Kiting issue in Mandurah. Good opportunity for us to co-operate on something and create good will amongst us.

No red thumbs woo hoo thats cool! thanks Guys and Gals

It is a concern the area, we know there area and we know the risks although even we have to be reminded about the risks we are taking
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47182

At a recent GPS teams challenge day we had no less than 15 fins destroyed because of rock impacts.

These fins for speed sailing are short at around 24cm, some of the came back with chunks missing half way up which means the rocks were very close to the surface.

Fortunately most of our fins are raked so we don't stop when we hit something (although some people have) we just generally cry at another $200 fin on the scrap heap, but if you jump and land on them then you are in a whole world of hurt.

The point of my post is that this is seriously not a good kiting spot.
Where we used to speed sail at the Nth side of the cut is as good a spot for speed but as a kiting spot it's got vastly superior.

Have fun peoples, Look me up if you're in the area

I just dont like those crabs biting my toes

elmo said...

Why don't you just be straight-up about this ?
You don't want kiters jerking around on your private poley speed-sailing strip....right ?
So go away kiters and don't come back.
We get it.
lol.

Hey,
not sure who you are, elmo? If you are the young fellow, then I appologise and I do not come back, but the other guy I would still ignore! The way how this guy went off on me was just sick and I do not have any sympathie. That is just wrong! No one wants to take him his fun but before having a normal conversation straight away crying and yelling like a litte 5 year old as you have taken his personal toy is just sick! If you want your freedom of us kiters then you shouldn't try to get rid of us with violent screaming!!!
Enjoy your surfing,

Cheers

theres a big green hairy monster lurking

cvo said...

Hey,
not sure who you are, elmo? If you are the young fellow, then I appologise and I do not come back, but the other guy I would still ignore! The way how this guy went off on me was just sick and I do not have any sympathie. That is just wrong! No one wants to take him his fun but before having a normal conversation straight away crying and yelling like a litte 5 year old as you have taken his personal toy is just sick! If you want your freedom of us kiters then you shouldn't try to get rid of us with violent screaming!!!
Enjoy your surfing,

Cheers

Well I think we have a winner here.

If you were they guy on the green and white kite then I was the one who woke you up whilst you were sailing across everyone's path.

Now just to enlighten you as you obviously had now idea what was going on around you I'll let you know what led me to in technical terms "abuse the sh1t out of you" to avoid a collision.

We had been sailing down at Novara since 10am in the morning and doing speed runs parallel with the shore since about 3pm.

You and your mate rocked up about 2 hours later and totally oblivious to the dozen guys belting along at speed up to 39knots (72kmh) decided to sail along at 45º to everyone else out there happily in a world of your own totaly unaware of the people flying past you.

After having a bite to eat I went back out to put down a few more runs on my big board. As I was not planning on going down the actual speed run on the larger board I went out a bit wider than what I'd been doing earlier.

Now you may or may not have been aware it was a touch breezy on Wednesday 23-30knots hence we were traveling quickly, when we travel quickly we don't have a huge amount of choice about where we can point our gear.

Now as I'm going down my run I see this nice new Green and white kite coming out with the guy not paying any attention to anyone or anything, he does a huge jump getting his board all of 3 feet from the water and carries on going on his 45º from the shore, I'm trying to go further up wind to evade him but he's in a world of his own not knowing WTF is going on around him. I get within 100m of him and he decides to point further into the wind, I've got NO WHERE to go in less than 4 seconds I'm going to be running into him as we are on a collision course.

I tried washing of as much speed as I could (slowed down to 30knots) and then this seems to be where I have upset you by Bellowing the following words as loud as I can to get your attention "HEY D1CKHEAD, THIS IS A SPEEDRUN OPEN YOUR F'KEN EYES" seemed to have the desired effect as the look of shock and surprise on your face when I breezed past you still shouting with about 10-15 foot of room actually made you think about what the F**k you were doing.

Now I am truly sorry for disturbing your peaceful little world, and I can quite honestly say that most of the time the rest of Australia is a lot more polite and diplomatic however as time was of the essence and I didn't think you would really appreciate 90+kg of muppet and windsurfing kit inserted up your freckle.

Here is a posting of my track (the joys of gps) for that run and I've put in there the line which you were meandering on



Mine is the thin yellow line yours is the green one (apologies my paintbrush drawing skills are not very good)

I sincerely apologize if I have upset your sensibilities, no hang on I don't apologize.

You were sailing like a ignorant git with no idea or concern for whoever or whatever was going on around you.

Next time open your eyes and use some (not so) common sense

Red thumb away crew

If I was racing at 39knots and someone who should have seen what was going on around him before he even got into the water got in my way I would be f`n and blinding! If you see poleys doing fast runs why get in their way or even close to them? You are on a kite, you can do your jumps and tricks anywhere. For poleys to do speed runs they pretty much need to stay on a course.
All elmo is saying is that is where they do their speed runs and it would be nice if they are given a bit of space and that he doesn`t think it`s an ideal spot for kiting. What`s wrong with that? Trust me, you do not want to play chicken with a big windsurf board and sail.

Ken
The thicker line is the kiting dude and the thinner line is my track from my GPS.

The grumpiness comes from me not wanting to put myself or someone else in hospital.

No I don't own the water, never thought I did.

Speed runs are only ever boring when underpowered, it's all about exceeding your limitations, you should try it sometime, it's not just going as fast as you possibly can but using that level as a starting point and pushing yourself even faster.

And finally I'm quite happy to sail with kites, I quite often help launch and catch them when needed and generally give a wave as I go past. I just don't tolerate D'heads of any discipline especially when one puts me in danger.

enjoy the breeze today

lolz i am just hapy the woodies one is not used by the polies anymore

phrase said...

Wow! A poley tries to explain a situation that happenned and give advice on an area and he gets snapped at. Must be some seriously insecure kiters out there. Give the pole dancers their space. What is the big deal? We`ve pretty much taken over every other good spot.
Don`t worry elmo karma (in this case the hidden rocks) will prevail.
I wish all the toolhead full of attitude kiters, polleys, jet skiers, could find their own little spot somewhere. It`ll only have to be a small area, cause these head cases love to be close in order to stroke each others egos.

I could not resist to say something! I wished we would have more responsible kitesurfers like you out there... just been reading your post around the forum and they chilled me out
I am part of those experienced poleys (as you call us) but I love anything else for fun too (and almost forgot that! ggg)... I am a local in Safety Bay just like you and would not mind meeting you one day and shake hands .
I end up sailing in Mandurah because @ SBay the year just past became insane and dangerous to sail. If you see a windsurfer late arvo (same raisons as you) in a mid-breeze in the pond it could be me
I decided this year to make peace with the kiters (surfers), and to change my attitude toward them (which is not really pleasant I have to say ) because this is going out of control and we have to work together to get somewhere. It is not going to be easy out there as a big majority does not seem to realise what's going on and where we heading!
Anyway phrase, keep the good work...
who knows I may become a kitesurfer too some day, if I do, I ll try to show the exemple

Peace to all

kk said...

Yep ok now I see where you poleys are coming from...Had the same problem myself a while back..

I was doin this speed run up this road and some IDIOTS tried to merge!!!! WTF were they thinking???

Put both our lives in danger!!! Bloody idiots,,, it was so obvious I was doing a speed run..... Idiots!!

No wonder I went off like a raging fool and abused them and stuff

Don't start me on merging lanes