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Dawn Patrol said...Ive given in learning for now, cause every time i tryed i accidently looped the kite and got drilled. Now im trying to learn to loop it and then ill try again. (im still getting drilled though

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I was doing the exact same... those loops hurt too especially when they are deep slow ones and ya land on your side or face ... ha-ha
I found best is when about to boost to do the forward roll use one hand dead center of your chicken loop to send the kite and edge off then, will stop the bar from being pulled in wrong direction as you initiate your turn with your shoulder.... better just under swinging to start with, if the kites stable will slack your lines but not Hindenburg.. (thats dependant alot on kite as much as how you crash and wind factor....) Then splash down and do that till you get the timing, height and push off all down pat... then roll lower and lower without sending the kite, gets more fun... although I think the long floaty loops look nicer the more power lower ones feel better!