They mean residents rights?

Well I'm not going to apply for the Spannish championships am I.

Most of the time with these things foreigners can compete but not win the title
nb. Says australia citizens - is that a citizen of Australian

It wouldnt be fair to have the Australian Champion a kiwi.

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bjw said...
It wouldnt be fair to have the Australian Champion a kiwi.

So would you also think its not fair to have a foreigner win the Australian open (tennis)?

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DanWilson said..

bjw said...
It wouldnt be fair to have the Australian Champion a kiwi.

So would you also think its not fair to have a foreigner win the Australian open (tennis)?

The Australian Open is not a National Championship
According to the document that Docyle found (that is from 2010) you need to have at least a perminate residents visa to win.

They dont call the Australian Open winner the Australian Champion.

I have been thinking a bit about a SSS style event (happy for others to join in)

there will be an entry fee to cover off set up etc.
Judged by riders
longer format than 7 mins, more of a freeride session of freeestyle.

No politics, time to allow people to hang out and ride, a bit of a video and some photos and anyone, any nationality/state of residence is welcome to join me.

Open to different styles (wake skate/rails/kickers) Am a bit frustrated to see the above considering some of these guys who should be competing are residents of Australia.

I will start another thread on this.

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bjw said...
They dont call the Australian Open winner the Australian Champion.

So the victor of this freestyle event is gonna be called 'the Australian champion'? That's settled the discussion.

Saying citizens only is just a big restriction on an event in my opinion, I always think 'let the best man/woman win' from any nationality.

I used to be heavily involved in Motorsport and the formula 3 British championship was won by Australian (ricciardo) and mexican (Perez) when I was there, they were both British f3 champions, pretty sure no one was bothered by the nationalities.

But whatever I'm not entering this event just having an opinion.

I suggested this and I did it because last year Dan Sweeney and I knocked out some Australians and the results of the Australian placings could have been very different in the event if it were not for this. It isn't good for anyone. Dan and I came 1st and 2nd in the event respectively and it both pissed people off and sucked for us because it didn't really mean much as the only results posted in the mags were of the Australians (we were not included) and some very good Australian talent got knocked out early in the comp. I am going to organise some Triple S style comps here in Oz but for now I think this event is best done as an Australian only event. I asked specifically if we could do another division just named the open event that we could compete in but due to time constrictions this isn't going to happen unfortunately. Dan and I will be judging along side some other very qualified people and hopefully we will have a very fair result and some great competition.

National have always been open to Australia Permanent Resident as well, this is the same for most sports.
Understandable if you only on a holiday or temp visa but living in the country for a number of years paying my aksa fees and not being allowed to enter, not cool

Then again pick your preferred post if you a resident or a citizen and you're all good

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Drury said..
I suggested this and I did it because

how does one rider call the shots for who is allowed in nationals? aksa ok with this?

To think anyone not Australian citizen could enter a Australian national championship is ****ing ridiculous.

That poster clearly states Australian citizens only! And if you expect something different at a NATIONAL championship ya got rocks In your head.

Interesting approach to the problem, I reckon.

A similar situation happened with Australian Snowboarding comps about 10-15 years ago.
The Australian Titles/Nationals used to only have Aussie riders competing in them.
As the popularity of the sport grew, so did the prize pool for the riders getting on the podium.
All of a sudden, absolute shredders from the States and Canada were coming over pretty much to clean up the cash.
Made it tough on the Aussies, that's for sure.

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Dahh said..

Drury said..
I suggested this and I did it because

how does one rider call the shots for who is allowed in nationals? aksa ok with this?

Mate I'm not saying I made the call I just added my input. I'm trying to help to make the event the best it can possibly be. What are you doing other than making negative comments?

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sirstomp said..
shredders from the States and Canada were coming over pretty much to clean up the cash.

You dont just pop over from the USA and become a Australia Permanent Resident

Nah mate, they didn't need to go to those lengths. Simply rock up to Oz for a few weeks and ride the comps. Comp sponnos were loving it due to international coverage, but Aussie riders were pissed.
I know it forces Aussies to step up thier game, but isn't that what an international championsip would be for?

Good on the organisers for doing this. It's a small sport and I think all the freestyle Aussie competitors love to battle it out and see themselves ranked next to their peers.

I'm sure they loved going against the international crew too. But when it comes to awards night, it's going to be more fun for the Aussies to get the reward of being able to say I've got a trophy that says I'm the best Australian rider.

Saying this, any contest being organised is awesome for us, and a headache for the organisers, so full credit for organising this, as I'm sure you don't profit or benefit from it. It's more than Im doing for my sport!

Contact David de Witt for clarification www.facebook.com/david.dewitt.5205?fref=ts

Isn't the main problem, if there is one, the lack of competitors and inspiration for a new generation?

NZ always let residents enter, just saying...

Be awesome to see a full open event, not much going on really in recent years....

Pretty sure there will be an announcement clarifying this point and a couple of others, very soon.

Official statement from Kiteboarding Australia Limited:''Kiteboarding Australia and Kiteboarding NSW would like to clarify that all divisions and disciplines of the event are open to overseas competitors. Only an Australian citizen or permanent resident however can win the Australian Championships in each division. As such please dis-regard the ‘Australian Citizen Only’ message on our previous communications as this is no longer the case.Secondly the feedback regarding the artwork itself has been a little negative. This is not to have a go at anyone as I know this would have been created extremely quickly due to the short notice of the event.Under normal circumstances all artwork for the Nationals would be reviewed by the Events, Competitions & Rules committee (ECR) /The KAL Board but due to the urgency in announcing the event details this did not happen. However I do feel at this point now that the dates & location have been confirmed that there is time to make modifications to the artwork and have it reviewed by the above parties before KAL sends out its mass email to all members."Stay tuned for more.

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doycle said..
Who knows ... http://www.aksa.com.au/Resources/Documents/national%20championships/AKSAAgeCategoriesandEligibility.pdf

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Dahh said..
They mean residents rights?

Yep; Australian Citizens and Permanent Residents - reads ok now....www.facebook.com/kiteboardnationals