Tonight (June 28) Cottesloe Council tonight votes whether to control kiting and windsurfing at Dutch Inn, between Telephone Box and the Dutch Inn Groyne.

The main point is that after all the public submissions the staff have recommended the proposed restrictions not go ahead, they do a total review of the local laws affecting beaches, kiter/poleys are "encouraged" to stay away from Telephone Box, and some new car parking and showers are put in near Salvado Street. But councillors could change that.

Meeting starts at 7pm. Here's the current recommendation;

VOTING Simple Majority OFFICER RECOMMENDATION THAT Council with respect to the proposal to amend the Beaches and Beach Reserves Local Law 2012, Council
1. Determine not to proceed with the proposed amendment.

2. Undertake a comprehensive review of the Beaches and Beach Reserves Local Law to identify parts of the Law that are in more in keeping with the permitted activities in the Local Government Property Local Law and report back to Council on these various sections with a view to repealing them and inserting into the Local Government Property Local Law.

3. Undertake the Salvado Street carpark works and install a shower and drinking fountain to encourage kite surfers to use this area for set up, due to the additional space available. ORDINARY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA 28 JUNE 2016 Page 37

4. As an interim measure, encourage kite and windsurfers to use the area's specified on the attached map for their set up and access to the water.

5. Consolidate the playground equipment at the Southern Groyne into a smaller area and fence to separate windsurfers and children using the playground.

6. Undertake as a matter of priority the beach access path upgrades contained in the 2016/17 Budget.

7. Monitor the impact of these works over the 2016/17 season to identify patterns of usage arising from these new facilities and implement restrictions as required in the Local Government Property Local Law if deemed necessary.

8. Thank each person who made a submission and advise them of the outcome.


The full agenda and report is here:

http://www.cottesloe.wa.gov.au/d/Resource_Library/Council/Council_and_Committee_Minutes_and_Agenda/Agendas__Minutes_2016/June/ILTKG2Y9CJ9ITJEM5PXEP4J0MCK1HB/M6JSXSL3LSY4PP4.pdf/Agenda+June+28+2016+Council.pdf?

It was all adopted last night.

The council also decided to make improving the Salvado Street steps the priority.

Whether they include the initially-proposed restriction between Rosendo Street and the Dutch Inn groyne, which can be enforced with fines, in new local laws will depend on how well kiters and poleys use the improved area.

they are going to fix all the paths, and put in a new shower and car bays at Salvado Street, and make the Dutchies playground safer.

There will now be a complete review of all beach local laws, including the correct legal definitions for kite surfing and windsurfers.

There is money in the council's 2016/17 budget for the work - starting with the Salvado step that go down to the old WAKSA 'gentlemens' agreement' area.

However, the message is, use 'Dutchies and NOT Telephone Box, and the council won't get all Nazi about it .

They will be monitoring Dutchies use to see if the improvements were worth it. If not, in come the laws booting everyone into the restricted zone.

Alverstone,

the 103 page report refers to "the attached map" but the online version does not show a map (or at least the browser I'm using can't/won't show that map).

So that everyone is on the same page so to speak, can you post the map that City of Cottesloe is relying on please?

cheers
Juddy

Yep. I tried too. My browser won't bring it up either.
So I contacted a councillor and she said the area they will now "encourage" everyone to use, and monitor, is the same as that which was suggested for the restrictions between the steps at the end of Rosendo St - 50m south of Telephone Box - and the Dutch Inn Groyne.
But I'll email the CEO to confirm.

5. Consolidate the playground equipment at the Southern Groyne into a smaller area and fence to separate windsurfers and children using the playground.
sounds like a good idea to keep our kids away from windsurfers but will the windsurfers get a swing

Map from proposed amendment.

Why does life have to be so complicted

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cauncy said...
Why does life have to be so complicted

A. Idiots and drama queens.

More rats in the cage, more infrastructure for the rats equals more power grabs to control land And the economic rent it provides. Which manifests such complexity. It's all about land.

And what green arrow said...

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Robbo2099 said..

Hahaha North of the river boy!

How are your insurance premiums this year?

Have you kited The Point? Probably the only solid wave in that region.

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cauncy said..
Why does life have to be so complicted

It's not.
Just don't launch and land outside the area we all previously went to anyway, and before people complicated things by thinking dangerous (sometimes) Telephone Box was a good idea. If we don't, the council and the neighbouring residents can get irked for real, rather than being nice and spending some money in the patch we should have used all this time.

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alverstone said...

cauncy said..
Why does life have to be so complicted

It's not.
Just don't launch and land outside the area we all previously went to anyway, and before people complicated things by thinking dangerous (sometimes) Telephone Box was a good idea. If we don't, the council and the neighbouring residents can get irked for real, rather than being nice and spending some money in the patch we should have used all this time.

I go to the beach and kite
Your options look a bit more complicated than that

Not every kiter has a 5km+/- long, 300m wide beach pretty much all of their own to play with - which understandably isn't all that complicated.
;-)

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Juddy said...
Not every kiter has a 5km+/- long, 300m wide beach pretty much all of their own to play with - which understandably isn't all that complicated.
;-)

Priorities in life juddy

When is this effective from... fines etc

I can foresee some carnage, launch landing in the no sand part of the year...

Alverstone thanks for all your information.

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cauncy said..

alverstone said...

cauncy said..
Why does life have to be so complicted

It's not.
Just don't launch and land outside the area we all previously went to anyway, and before people complicated things by thinking dangerous (sometimes) Telephone Box was a good idea. If we don't, the council and the neighbouring residents can get irked for real, rather than being nice and spending some money in the patch we should have used all this time.

I go to the beach and kite
Your options look a bit more complicated than that

blah blah blah blah . sure everyone is sick of you belting on about how good you have it up in dongara kiting with no-one else . But do we care ?

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dusta said...

cauncy said..

alverstone said...

cauncy said..
Why does life have to be so complicted

It's not.
Just don't launch and land outside the area we all previously went to anyway, and before people complicated things by thinking dangerous (sometimes) Telephone Box was a good idea. If we don't, the council and the neighbouring residents can get irked for real, rather than being nice and spending some money in the patch we should have used all this time.

I go to the beach and kite
Your options look a bit more complicated than that

blah blah blah blah . sure everyone is sick of you belting on about how good you have it up in dongara kiting with no-one else . But do we care ?

Obviously

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SaveTheWhales said..
When is this effective from... fines etc

I can foresee some carnage, launch landing in the no sand part of the year...

The council says it will start the improvements in the next six months, and then monitor whether the paths/showers/carparks work in attracting everyone to that stretch between the groyne and Rosendo St.
At the same time they will be reviewing ALL the beach laws along all the coast for all activities - think everyone from the handgliders down at the roundabout to the secret society of sand pit diggers that seem to want to trap ever early morning beach runner - and include correct definitions of kiting and windsurfing in the new local laws.
At the moment there is no mention of fines, but is has been discussed before so the rangers have something they can use if kiters don't use their common sense at non-designated and dangerous spots.
They are not going to put up big banning signs because they say there's already too many for other things. Signs stir the 'Save Our Views" and Nanny State crowds, anyway.

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dusta said...

cauncy said..

alverstone said...

cauncy said..
Why does life have to be so complicted

It's not.
Just don't launch and land outside the area we all previously went to anyway, and before people complicated things by thinking dangerous (sometimes) Telephone Box was a good idea. If we don't, the council and the neighbouring residents can get irked for real, rather than being nice and spending some money in the patch we should have used all this time.

I go to the beach and kite
Your options look a bit more complicated than that

blah blah blah blah . sure everyone is sick of you belting on about how good you have it up in dongara kiting with no-one else . But do we care ?

Dusta
I understand how your life is currently on hold due to designing the 2017 waksa harness tag,
But when your done your welcome up here for a kite

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cauncy said..

dusta said...

cauncy said..

alverstone said...

cauncy said..
Why does life have to be so complicted

It's not.
Just don't launch and land outside the area we all previously went to anyway, and before people complicated things by thinking dangerous (sometimes) Telephone Box was a good idea. If we don't, the council and the neighbouring residents can get irked for real, rather than being nice and spending some money in the patch we should have used all this time.

I go to the beach and kite
Your options look a bit more complicated than that

blah blah blah blah . sure everyone is sick of you belting on about how good you have it up in dongara kiting with no-one else . But do we care ?

Dusta
I understand how your life is currently on hold due to designing the 2017 waksa harness tag,
But when your done your welcome up here for a kite

wouldn't know anything about the 2017 waksa harness tag , there is a KA harness tag . But then again i aint on ze committee