New to the sport, (loving it) Javascript:insertsmilie('')I have been told by some that generally any bar can fly any kite. Others have said only the original bar should fly the correct kite. I see both sides to the discussion, but would think that most bars are similar enough to safely fly the majority of kites.Javascript:insertsmilie('')

Hey SkitzoMac - whichever one u are today

Yeah any 'long throw' bar will work as some kites need the length to roll over and launch

If you have short arms - give up and try dwarf throwing
Haa Oops - I meant just use the stopper but not until you have good basics down

Also bars with lots of depower are better, as various kites need various amounts of it -dont be caught short on that one or initiation will be sooner than later

Any bar you get, makes sure the safety works and inspect & RESET it every time before hooking in

If you need knots on end of 2 lines - buy some dyneema line and put 2 figure 8 knots on it, and leave them attached to your kite - easy az. A few minutes will save you Hundreds if you cant afford it...

Cheersz sharkbait

most are ok on most. I've experimented a fair bit. But sometimes there are pretty big consequences from changing bars without making sure the bar has the same line lengths as the one thats meant to be on the kite. Some kites have long bridals, some none. There is a chance that you could have back lines too long and end up with a kite flying from the front lines only, very hard to steer and very likely to turn inside out with a crack noise that sounds like lightening and then loop out of control (and into a tree if its a cab).

If back lines are too short, the drama is likely to be less intense unless you got strong wind. It will just have a tendency to back stall (fly backwards).

Basically if there is a difference in line length between the front and back lines on the original bar then you gotta have the same difference on the one you want to use.

there are also other considerations like the 5th line if there is one and wether its load bearing and were it runs eg thru the bar or not etc.

Also like said above. make sure you got a good safety you know how to use and preferrably a good way to flag or self land. Also as a newby, its a good idea to get some help from a mate with experience. they'll know before it launches if its safe or not.

I have a hybrid liquid force havoc and set the bar and line up on a old c kite. It kinda works but you have to change the tension of the middel lines and just fiddel with the bar to get the line tension right so it doesn't oversheet the kite or depower the kite to much.

So the bar and lines on the same style kites would probaly work togeather the best but the different kites like the c and the hybrid just dont realy fly right togeather from my experience.