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Cabrinha Switchy - Replacing Pig Tails

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billob > 9 months ago, 14 Sep 2016

billob

QLD

93 posts

14 Sep 2016 12:55pm

Hi - I have a worn out pigtail and for the life of me can't seem to untie the bridle to get a new one on? Everytime i untie a knot it appears to connect into another tied knot and where it connects to the front bladder - more knots. Please help me before it breaks and gets stuck in a tree..again.

NorthernKitesAUS

QLD

1084 posts

14 Sep 2016 1:05pm

How can the knot tie itself? You're not making sense.

If the bridles look feathered and worn, cut it off. Get rid of it and get new ones. Any pigtail set from any kite shop should be a fine replacement. Just make sure the lengths are the same and the same number of knots are there (or make them yourself).

billob

QLD

93 posts

14 Sep 2016 1:22pm

Yeh i didn't articulate my point to well -- my point is - without cutting off the bridle there looks no way of untying it to put on a new pigtail

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

14 Sep 2016 3:06pm

They're larks-headed onto the LE. You might have to take most of the bridle off

Beersy

TAS

753 posts

14 Sep 2016 6:25pm

Post a photo of the pigtails, on all kites i've had (ozones), the pigtail is usuall just attatched to the bridle by a loop at the end. I can't see why cabrinha would have a more complicated system for attatching the pigtails, but I've got no experience, so I'm probably wrong.

Beersy

TAS

753 posts

14 Sep 2016 6:46pm

This is the best photo I could find online... Is it these parts your having problems with, or is it further along?
On another note, why don't kite manufacturers post HD photos of their bridles. I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in seeing them, plus handy for reference when doing kite repairs/ choosing the least complicated or ridiculous system.

KPSS Used

NSW

433 posts

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15 Sep 2016 9:51am

Kami is correct, you have to start from the LE and work back to the front pigtail from there, feeding the bridles out of the pulleys at each point.

Make sure you only to ONE side at a time! So you have something to refer to if/when you make a mistake.

Ken9

31 posts

15 Sep 2016 5:29pm

I got the same problem, sorry just to clarify at what point do you start removing the bridal? At the wing tip end on the Le just undo? Because of the larks heads it seems like you have to pull the kite through a loop

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

15 Sep 2016 7:45pm

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Ken9 said..
I got the same problem, sorry just to clarify at what point do you start removing the bridal? At the wing tip end on the Le just undo? Because of the larks heads it seems like you have to pull the kite through a loop

Look at the connection points on the LE--one or two will be larks heads. Remove that, slide out through pulleys, repeat to the end.

Jesuschrist it's no wonder that people freak out about foils when they can't cope with just a couple of Vs and connection points!

billob

QLD

93 posts

15 Sep 2016 8:21pm

Thanks for the advice figjam- sounds like you're a bit of a legend in foiling circles, for a second there i thought i was on a kiting forum..

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

15 Sep 2016 8:43pm

Think about it--how are you going to attach one line securely to two points? One end can be looped though but the other will have to be a larks head. IIRC you only need to undo one LE knot, slide the other line through the pulley then you can change the front pigtail. It's not rocket science, stop doing things the hard way

WoolyNinja

23 posts

16 Sep 2016 6:07am

Hi Billlob,

Have you considered just cutting the line and using some superglue to attach the new pigtail? Chuck a staple in there for extra measure.
At least that way you'll have a chance of getting this sorted and out on the water sometime this side of Christmas.
Let me know and you can borrow my knife

purpleninja

55 posts

16 Sep 2016 6:29am

kami, just to clarify what is the le and the irrc

billob

QLD

93 posts

16 Sep 2016 8:32am

Thanks for the info guys i've sorted this out now - see you out there

WoolyNinja

23 posts

16 Sep 2016 6:40am

I don't share your enthusiasm

NorthernKitesAUS

QLD

1084 posts

16 Sep 2016 10:59am

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WoolyNinja said..
Hi Billlob,

Have you considered just cutting the line and using some superglue to attach the new pigtail? Chuck a staple in there for extra measure.
At least that way you'll have a chance of getting this sorted and out on the water sometime this side of Christmas.
Let me know and you can borrow my knife

I wish the red thumbs were back

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

16 Sep 2016 11:39am

LE is leading edge...as in, LEI.

IIRC is If I Remember Correctly.

SMH

WoolyNinja

23 posts

16 Sep 2016 11:18am

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Kamikuza said..
LE is leading edge...as in, LEI.

IIRC is If I Remember Correctly.

SMH

SMH??????

"Sydney Morning Herald"? not sure how it ties in.

WoolyNinja

23 posts

16 Sep 2016 11:28am

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DylanJamo said..

I wish the red thumbs were back

I wish there was an option for a 'face-palm' response, but we can't all be so lucky.

Sydney Morning Herald.

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

16 Sep 2016 8:27pm

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WoolyNinja said..

Kamikuza said..
LE is leading edge...as in, LEI.

IIRC is If I Remember Correctly.

SMH

SMH??????

"Sydney Morning Herald"? not sure how it ties in.

Shakes my head.

Jesus!

Ken9

31 posts

17 Sep 2016 8:41pm

You seem super religious kami, Jewish?

elemenopee

pigtail sorted

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

18 Sep 2016 12:02am

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Ken9 said..
You seem super religious kami, Jewish?

elemenopee

pigtail sorted

I'll convert to whichever deity will give the strength to get through this thread...

WoolyNinja

23 posts

18 Sep 2016 7:25pm

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Kamikuza said..

WoolyNinja said..

Kamikuza said..
LE is leading edge...as in, LEI.

IIRC is If I Remember Correctly.

SMH

SMH??????

"Sydney Morning Herald"? not sure how it ties in.

Shakes my head.

Jesus!

I'm considering taking up fishing... certainly took that bait

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

18 Sep 2016 9:59pm

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WoolyNinja said..

Kamikuza said..

WoolyNinja said..

Kamikuza said..
LE is leading edge...as in, LEI.

IIRC is If I Remember Correctly.

SMH

SMH??????

"Sydney Morning Herald"? not sure how it ties in.

Shakes my head.

Jesus!

I'm considering taking up fishing... certainly took that bait

You got me. I had only just looked up the meaning of SMH earlier that day...

Ken9

31 posts

19 Sep 2016 6:24am

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