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DaveDobbin
DaveDobbin

SA

31 posts

2 Aug 2017 5:40pm
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Hi all,
I have had the nod from the minister of war and finance to buy another piece of kite equipment. Only started kiting last year with the following kit out:
* 11m Cabrinha Switchblade
*Shinn 138x42 Pinbot
*Fusion Seat harness
Im and old fella so Im not keen on going out in stronger winds so dont want to add a smaller kite to the quiver, but would like to get a bit more time on the water than I did last summer, so was thinking either a bigger 16m kite, or a lighter wind board , maybe something like a North Nugget.
Im 94kg and will be mainly using the gear around Adelaide SA.
Any thoughts ?
Happy Days
Dave


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Scrubes
Scrubes

VIC

115 posts

2 Aug 2017 6:35pm
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DaveDobbin said..



Hi all,
I have had the nod from the minister of war and finance to buy another piece of kite equipment. Only started kiting last year with the following kit out:
* 11m Cabrinha Switchblade
*Shinn 138x42 Pinbot
*Fusion Seat harness
Im and old fella so Im not keen on going out in stronger winds so dont want to add a smaller kite to the quiver, but would like to get a bit more time on the water than I did last summer, so was thinking either a bigger 16m kite, or a lighter wind board , maybe something like a North Nugget.
Im 94kg and will be mainly using the gear around Adelaide SA.
Any thoughts ?
Happy Days
Dave



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If you go the 16m Kite, it needs to be a newer kite, the older ones are too heavy to be beneficial, where as a bigger board will also give you a bigger range on you existing gear, But with a board it comes down to the style of Kite you have.
bigtone667
bigtone667

NSW

1551 posts

2 Aug 2017 6:54pm
For your weight, I would recommend a zephyr. It has really huge range from about 12 knots to about 20 knots. Then you can jump onto your 11m.

I would also suggest buying yourself sheet of ply and glassing it, 160x50, add a deckpad and some twin tip fins. That will get you and zephyr down to ten knots.
Youngbreezy
Youngbreezy

WA

1221 posts

2 Aug 2017 5:38pm
Hey bigtone for the sheet of plywood twin tip you are suggesting would you need to bend the ply to add rocker? Or does it get enough rocker just by standing on it whilst kiting?

A north nugget or an ozone zephyr or other light wind kite would be a great addition and get you a lot more time on the water. I have a nugget and love it, I like being able to change riding styles and have different types of session and if you've got your twin tip and nugget on the beach you can swap between them if the wind goes up or down
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy

633 posts

2 Aug 2017 6:11pm
Don't need to do anything fancy to the wood (not me btw)

Richoa
Richoa

NSW

478 posts

2 Aug 2017 8:47pm
Nice vid on the plank.


im 94kg and always keen to get out, i have a 17m zephyr and north spike. Certainly get out there on that combo in 10-17 knots and generally just switch down to a smaller board if gusting over that. Up around 20 knots its getting a bit hairy for me on zephyr but i am a beginner and have seen more experienced guys handle around 20 knot comfortably.

Thumbs up to the nugget as well, but sideways pull has you overpowered earlier than a big tt imo.
DaveDobbin
DaveDobbin

SA

31 posts

2 Aug 2017 10:31pm
The plank vid is cool. Thanks for the info. Think I'll check out the zephyr and Nugget . See if I can arrange a demo maybe before I make my mind up. Thanks again.
Dave
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

2 Aug 2017 9:02pm
depends on what you want, mow the lawn ? then grab a big board, throw down some moves then a bigger kite, i dont have many regrets in life, but i do regret selling my zephyr, throw it dont mow it
Richoa
Richoa

NSW

478 posts

3 Aug 2017 7:45am
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cauncy said..
depends on what you want, mow the lawn ? then grab a big board, throw down some moves then a bigger kite, i dont have many regrets in life, but i do regret selling my zephyr, throw it dont mow it


I don't get what yr saying there, why is getting a big board or big kite restricting him to "mowing the lawn"
kemp90
kemp90

QLD

1694 posts

3 Aug 2017 8:07am
Go to your local surf shop and buy a $49 skimboard. You will get a solid bottom end!
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

3 Aug 2017 8:31am
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Richoa said..

cauncy said..
depends on what you want, mow the lawn ? then grab a big board, throw down some moves then a bigger kite, i dont have many regrets in life, but i do regret selling my zephyr, throw it dont mow it



I don't get what yr saying there, why is getting a big board or big kite restricting him to "mowing the lawn"


Lift
you get that from the kite not a board, I'm talking from experience ,
if a big board or a bigger kite was on the beach it be grabbing the bigger kite every time
bigtone667
bigtone667

NSW

1551 posts

3 Aug 2017 10:48am
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kemp90 said..
Go to your local surf shop and buy a $49 skimboard. You will get a solid bottom end!


skimboard is also a great option (we will called it a round edged plank). I have a few and they are a lot of fun.
For a bought product, the extra large Victoria Skim boards work a treat.
Scrubes
Scrubes

VIC

115 posts

3 Aug 2017 12:56pm
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bigtone667 said..
For your weight, I would recommend a zephyr. It has really huge range from about 12 knots to about 20 knots. Then you can jump onto your 11m.

I would also suggest buying yourself sheet of ply and glassing it, 160x50, add a deckpad and some twin tip fins. That will get you and zephyr down to ten knots.


+1 for Zepher, good kite
Scrubes
Scrubes

VIC

115 posts

3 Aug 2017 12:59pm
Ive got a cab stylus 165, you can jump with them it just takes some adjusting, with more surface area for landing.
JacobMatan
JacobMatan

WA

431 posts

3 Aug 2017 12:42pm
Ok this is a shameless plug but what the hell!!

I have a 15m slingshot turbine 2015 in good condition going for $750 kite only or can do it with bar for a price, it hasn't had a lot of use and I am not using it at the moment so it needs to go. good wind range good all round performer in the light wind category
bjw
bjw

bjw

QLD

3687 posts

3 Aug 2017 6:14pm
I was waiting for the foil frat club to hijack this thread.

Always go the big board. I see guys on big twinnies and wide surfboards and it makes a big diff. Then if the wind picks you just switch boards.
daddycool
daddycool

WA

337 posts

3 Aug 2017 10:06pm
Both - well worth it! You can pick up an older surfboard relatively cheaply and add the Zephyr....just let the Treasurer know that they were bargains
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy

633 posts

3 Aug 2017 11:11pm
Bigger board for me (and preferably something strapless). If I can't boost high I'd rather mess around looping the kite on the surface during transitions. Somehow it feels less like mowing the lawn if you add in the occasional loop.
Fly on da wall
Fly on da wall

SA

725 posts

4 Aug 2017 10:12am
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bjw said..
I was waiting for the foil frat club to hijack this thread.

Always go the big board. I see guys on big twinnies and wide surfboards and it makes a big diff. Then if the wind picks you just switch boards.


Most of us have enough lawn to mow and it gets quite boring and unrewarding, thanks to foil technology there's no need to ride a twin tip or surfboard unless it's 20+ knots cause foiling is way more fun.. It's a think outside the square thing.
Yeow
Peahi
Peahi

VIC

1482 posts

4 Aug 2017 11:22am
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Fly on da wall said..

bjw said..
I was waiting for the foil frat club to hijack this thread.

Always go the big board. I see guys on big twinnies and wide surfboards and it makes a big diff. Then if the wind picks you just switch boards.



Most of us have enough lawn to mow and it gets quite boring and unrewarding, thanks to foil technology there's no need to ride a twin tip or surfboard unless it's 20+ knots cause foiling is way more fun.. It's a think outside the square thing.
Yeow


Yes my strapless board is a secret foil. It has fins.

I can get going in 15kn on a 10m switchy and 5'11" vader, 90kg, light winds great time to practice those gybes, punts and whatever else
Bletti
Bletti

WA

163 posts

4 Aug 2017 5:44pm
Hydrofoil and smaller kite rather than bigger kite or board
bigtone667
bigtone667

NSW

1551 posts

4 Aug 2017 9:42pm
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Youngbreezy said..
Hey bigtone for the sheet of plywood twin tip you are suggesting would you need to bend the ply to add rocker? Or does it get enough rocker just by standing on it whilst kiting?

A north nugget or an ozone zephyr or other light wind kite would be a great addition and get you a lot more time on the water. I have a nugget and love it, I like being able to change riding styles and have different types of session and if you've got your twin tip and nugget on the beach you can swap between them if the wind goes up or down


For the first one I ever made, I threw ply in some plastic containers containing boring old water and used bricks and a 16kg kettle bell to bend the wood. Pulled the ply out used the bricks and kettle bell to maintain the tension while wood dried. After drying (about a month), I shaped a board (paipo) and glasses it. It worked a treat.

The second one I did was a sheet of pine from Bunning's done in the alaia style. Cut a shape, added a nose, cut a channel and glassed the bottom and through resin on top. Also worked well.

The North Nugget gets a big tick as a light wind board.
Ozone Kites Aus
5 Aug 2017 7:51am
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DaveDobbin said..
The plank vid is cool. Thanks for the info. Think I'll check out the zephyr and Nugget . See if I can arrange a demo maybe before I make my mind up. Thanks again.
Dave


Hi Dave

Give Jordan Roberts a call he is the local Adelaide/SA Ozone dealer, he has a Zephyr demo 0433118845 and he probably has some larger TT's to test as well.
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