Looking for a lightweight carbon TT, that except the main use i can take it to the surf playing with some waves toeside, with carving abilities, no face spray, crazy upwind, super fast with endless speed and early planing. i used to ride in onshore conditions, 20 - 30 knots. Im thinking also for Nomad Prototype ultra. I will appreciate if anyone have an opinion about these boards

anyone knows? Naish Momarch vs Axis Limited .... ( not the Nomad )

I have the Axis Carbon Ltd. It pops well with soft landings thanks to the channels. I bought the 142 x 43 (95kgs) and it's great for light wind / early planning and does travel upwind quite well though not as good as my old Nobile T5.

It's not however a good board for choppy conditions, really hard to hold an edge you just skip and bounce everywhere as the carbon has less weight and flex to soak up the bumps. I wouldn't recommend it for surf though.

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Macster said..
I have the Axis Carbon Ltd. It pops well with soft landings thanks to the channels. I bought the 142 x 43 (95kgs) and it's great for light wind / early planning and does travel upwind quite well though not as good as my old Nobile T5.

It's not however a good board for choppy conditions, really hard to hold an edge you just skip and bounce everywhere as the carbon has less weight and flex to soak up the bumps. I wouldn't recommend it for surf though.

Gotta disagree I have the limited in a 136 x 42, with the 50mm fins this thing tracks like it is on rails, I kite mainly in sloppy choppy bay conditions and it eats the conditions without falter. But if you are getting into waves get yourself a surfboard to really enjoy yourself...

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Smithy said..

Macster said..
I have the Axis Carbon Ltd. It pops well with soft landings thanks to the channels. I bought the 142 x 43 (95kgs) and it's great for light wind / early planning and does travel upwind quite well though not as good as my old Nobile T5.

It's not however a good board for choppy conditions, really hard to hold an edge you just skip and bounce everywhere as the carbon has less weight and flex to soak up the bumps. I wouldn't recommend it for surf though.

Gotta disagree I have the limited in a 136 x 42, with the 50mm fins this thing tracks like it is on rails, I kite mainly in sloppy choppy bay conditions and it eats the conditions without falter. But if you are getting into waves get yourself a surfboard to really enjoy yourself...

Yeah me too, I disagree with Mac. I actually put some 40mm fins on my 140x43 and I like them better than the Axis 50mm... the 40mm fins are about 15mm longer though, which is, apparently, important.

I play in waves (calling what I do "surfing" might upset some people) and it carves good enough to amuse me, throws a nice wall of spray and is lively edge to edge.

Find it finicky with the pad placement though... too far to heel ruins toeside and makes it sluggish, too far to toe makes edging hard when overpowered... but just right is perfect!

Thanks guys, Axis limited its light board but many said that previous models carves well, are very good boards except choppy atitude ... Nothing is clear... all the rest is ok. I think the new model -as the promo video from surf expo show- has different design for smoother feeling on chop, they make thicker rails and this make better result..Especial at Vanguard.. The limited as carbon im not sure if it absorbs the choppy sea and at the same time cut and pop well cause of the new thick rails.. Im very curious to know! .. The reason is not only The material,carbon,that makes more stiff flex , as the combination of double or more concaves that make a board More stiffer than a normal carbon with one concave.. Pop is better With more than one convcave but carbon and many concaves its the worst combination for chop..

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Kamikuza said..

Smithy said..

Macster said..
I have the Axis Carbon Ltd. It pops well with soft landings thanks to the channels. I bought the 142 x 43 (95kgs) and it's great for light wind / early planning and does travel upwind quite well though not as good as my old Nobile T5.

It's not however a good board for choppy conditions, really hard to hold an edge you just skip and bounce everywhere as the carbon has less weight and flex to soak up the bumps. I wouldn't recommend it for surf though.

Gotta disagree I have the limited in a 136 x 42, with the 50mm fins this thing tracks like it is on rails, I kite mainly in sloppy choppy bay conditions and it eats the conditions without falter. But if you are getting into waves get yourself a surfboard to really enjoy yourself...

Yeah me too, I disagree with Mac. I actually put some 40mm fins on my 140x43 and I like them better than the Axis 50mm... the 40mm fins are about 15mm longer though, which is, apparently, important.

I play in waves (calling what I do "surfing" might upset some people) and it carves good enough to amuse me, throws a nice wall of spray and is lively edge to edge.

Find it finicky with the pad placement though... too far to heel ruins toeside and makes it sluggish, too far to toe makes edging hard when overpowered... but just right is perfect!

Fair enough. I've only had 4 twin tips so far, this being my fourth. My impression is that the 2015 Axis carbon has the least chop-soaking ability so far of all the boards I've owned. I've adjusted to it now and learnt to use my knees a lot more with this board. I must have been spoiled from previous boards!

Ermiskitesurfer - you can try my Axis if you're in Melbourne and make up your own mind. I also kept my Nobile T5 too which I think is a much better freeride board.

What were your other boards?

New fat rail makes a huge difference in chop. The 016 Tranq prototypes I had with only that slight change made a massive difference.

I realy like this topic for new shape that absorb chop. Macster, thanks for your invitation. I wish i could demo before buy. Im close to Axis Limited . General i like light weight boards.

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sir ROWDY said..
New fat rail makes a huge difference in chop. The 016 Tranq prototypes I had with only that slight change made a massive difference.

Fair call, my limited is the 2014 with super thin rails, the 136 length also helps.

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oceansprince said...
Looking for a lightweight carbon TT, that except the main use i can take it to the surf playing with some waves toeside, with carving abilities, no face spray, crazy upwind, super fast with endless speed and early planing. i used to ride in onshore conditions, 20 - 30 knots. Im thinking also for Nomad Prototype ultra. I will appreciate if anyone have an opinion about these boards

With that criteria you'd have to demo the shinn bronq ,everything I look for in a board and the bronq does it to a very high level