Interesting topic by the waveslave master, so how about fins on twin-tips?


"......* Twin-tipper talking to twin-tipper :
"When I get a waveboard, I'll be able to ride waves properly."

* Strapped guy talking to strapped guy :
"When I get rid of the straps, I'll be able to ride waves properly."

* Strapless guy talking to strapless guy :
"When I get rid of the kite, I'll be able to ride waves properly."

lol.", WAVESLAVE...

Seen many articles recently on fins and are they worthless, unless in chop in regards to going upwind. Mark shinn did a perspective on fins, 4 riders or varying ability, 4 boards exactly the same and all different fins and or course a control.... A board with no fins.

You hold an edge not a fin and some of the newer boards with 3D flex feel more like snowboards. The rider who could go upwind the best rode upwind regardless of the fin configuration.
Lou Wainnman(?SP) also recently hetalked about in ideal conditions fins are a restriction as it prevents you from landing sideways out of a crazy trick.
look at awake, unhooked and any that have been posted...?

yup, use 0.75" fins on a pretty flat board (small concave in middle). Rode it for about 9 months only on 1 fin and got used to it - find that I pop better with fins and they stop me sliding out too much landing but the small fins are also forgiving with mediocre landings.

Agree.

Certainly board contours and rocker help also when riding fin-less. Definitely do not need those 4cm+ monstrosities they put on stock boards with high profile.

Fins are unnecessary if you have perfect technique, but nobody has perfect technique all the time in all conditions.

Upwind and fast riding is easy and more efficient without fins messing up the water flow.

Setting an edge to boost or carve a perfect toeside turn can be done but if you're a little off then you will spend more time crashing or sliding out or doing lame little pops. Fins make life much easier in those circumstances.

Gorgo said...

Fins are unnecessary if you have perfect technique, but nobody has perfect technique all the time in all conditions.

Upwind and fast riding is easy and more efficient without fins messing up the water flow.

Setting an edge to boost or carve a perfect toeside turn can be done but if you're a little off then you will spend more time crashing or sliding out or doing lame little pops. Fins make life much easier in those circumstances.

Totally, training wheels are necessary in many conditions.
Yes it makes it much easier to load and pop. One of the key mistakes I see many people make is they overload before pop and get more horozontal pop than vertical. It is easy to correct as when the fins are taken off and poor technique is used, riders do their first proper S-Bend unintentionally. After a half an hour of just loading and popping on butter water with no fins will actually increase your vertical pop after the trainer wheels go back on.

Was at work today, watching AWAKE, FLUID, and TEN-4. Lou Wainnman riding a 2 line kite, a board about 124cm with no fins going beserk at kitebeach... The dude makes the video look like it is in fast foward...