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Allround kite but good for jumping

Created by mikedk mikedk  > 9 months ago, 17 Mar 2018
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mikedk
mikedk

12 posts

17 Mar 2018 4:18am
I'm looking for an allround kite that is for good jumping, ideally with a large wind rage.
So far, I've been using Naish (Ride), F-one (Bandit) and Gaastra kites, not a huge fan of those :) mostly driven by good deals from local kiteshops.
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales

WA

1900 posts

17 Mar 2018 5:21am
Well the Bandit is a very good all rounder and covers the middle ground...

I think your better off enlightening us with your skill set. To get the best all round performance youll be needing two kites...
mikedk
mikedk

12 posts

17 Mar 2018 6:01am
Sure :) I'm advanced in freeride, but only starting with freestyle. Comfortable with small jumps and back/front rolls.
Looking for ~10-12m 4 line kite that can take me to 15-20 feet jumps :)
Kit3kat
Kit3kat

QLD

196 posts

17 Mar 2018 8:35am
switch nitro or epic screamer
JoeMc
JoeMc

WA

97 posts

17 Mar 2018 7:52am
Demo an ozone edge v9. You wont regret it
mikedk
mikedk

12 posts

17 Mar 2018 7:56am
What about Naish Dash or Cabrihnia FX?
dafish
dafish

NSW

1654 posts

17 Mar 2018 10:59am
virtually ANY kite can get you into the 20 foot jump range. Some will offer more glide though and need less technique to land softly.
Hybrid_Z
Hybrid_Z

VIC

382 posts

17 Mar 2018 12:35pm
Core xr. But yeah anything will get you to 20ft with good technique. From your experience level I'd say you need to refine your technique.
Richoa
Richoa

NSW

478 posts

17 Mar 2018 1:13pm
You'll need to buy a kite from usa to jump 15-20 feet, All Australian kites are sold with metric conversion
Adam'KiteRepair
Adam'KiteRepair

NSW

331 posts

17 Mar 2018 1:53pm
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Richoa said..
You'll need to buy a kite from usa to jump 15-20 feet, All Australian kites are sold with metric conversion


just as for a conversion pack. way cheaper and you get to keep your warrenty.
IanR
IanR

NSW

1327 posts

17 Mar 2018 7:59pm
Mikedk
Do yourself a favor and give an Airush Union 3 a demo.
It's a great all rounder and with good technique it goes massive
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

17 Mar 2018 5:03pm
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IanR said..
Mikedk
Do yourself a favor and give an Airush Union 3 a demo.
It's a great all rounder and with good technique it goes massive


You know the drill
photo proof or your talking shidt
glasstraxx
glasstraxx

WA

321 posts

17 Mar 2018 6:05pm
i ride a naish dash and i find it really quick kite, great for overpowered jumps and great for kite looping as the bar pressure isnt that much. it drifts as well for in the surf when riding downwind and it doesnt back stall when unhooking a bit underpowered. im really happy with it. bandit is also good. same sort of kite i rkn. i know kite addiciton doing a big sale on them as the kite is about 1 year old now, should of waited till now and paid a lot less :S nothing like getting a bargain!

in all serious though, the union, fx, envy and dice/vegas core etc all go big and are good for corss over to unhooking
kkiter
kkiter

NSW

452 posts

17 Mar 2018 10:20pm
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IanR said..
Mikedk
Do yourself a favor and give an Airush Union 3 a demo.
It's a great all rounder and with good technique it goes massive


It hasn't helped you Ian
mikedk
mikedk

12 posts

18 Mar 2018 1:23am
Thank you all for great tips.
@dafish and @Hybrid_Z: Sure, I can refine my technique, but why not getting some help for a kite, if possible.
@glasstraxx Great piece of advice, I have two Naish Ride kites (7 and 11m) and 9m F-one Bandit, and find them very different. I find Bandit less stable, while Ride seems more jump friendly, thus my interests in Dash.

I have to admit it is the ksurf kite rank that got me to think about other brands: www.iksurfmag.com/awards/readers-awards-2017/best-kite-manufacturer-of-2017/
kkiter
kkiter

NSW

452 posts

18 Mar 2018 10:56am
Do yourself a favour and try the Ozone Edge V9 before you make a final decision
IanR
IanR

NSW

1327 posts

18 Mar 2018 12:02pm
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kkiter said..
Do yourself a favour and try the Ozone Edge V9 before you make a final decision


Why don't you publish your woo results Glen.
Might just show how ordinary kiter you are on a kite specifically designed to jump big.
dbabicwa
dbabicwa

WA

808 posts

18 Mar 2018 10:51am
^
Maybe coz waiting for Woo3, there will be at least 30% higher results ;)

And no, it was not designed for jumping, but racing (before foils took over).
RAL INN
RAL INN

SA

2896 posts

18 Mar 2018 1:55pm
Reality check for all those who believe their equipment is holding them back.
IanR
IanR

NSW

1327 posts

18 Mar 2018 2:59pm
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dbabicwa said..
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Maybe coz waiting for Woo3, there will be at least 30% higher results ;)

And no, it was not designed for jumping, but racing (before foils took over).


From ozonekites.com

"The design brief for the ninth version of Edge was to radically improve free ride and big air potential, while maintaining its multiple World Championship winning race performance"

Don't get me wrong they are great kite but not what I would call an all rounder. A little high aspect for that
dbabicwa
dbabicwa

WA

808 posts

18 Mar 2018 12:36pm
U right, enough said.

somehow we do not see Edges winning the RedBull king of air, dont we?

But we see ppl winning races, so....

Ozone would just love to win over all of us, but that wont happen. The durability of Edges are just not there.

Any Flysurfer Boost2
would outjump an Edge, and a lot of other kites would too, ie Screamer. 5 lines kites too. They do drop u, and Edge does not, providing u redirect.

D.
Scrubes
Scrubes

VIC

115 posts

18 Mar 2018 3:45pm
If you want to try something different the Fluid Sky, Atv and Ego, have been on the jump devices leaderboards for a while now, with Gilion regularly up around the top. and as far as King of the Air, there are riders jumping higher that aren't invited to these events.
Gilly3
Gilly3

QLD

799 posts

18 Mar 2018 2:47pm
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RAL INN said..
Reality check for all those who believe their equipment is holding them back.



Hahaha....depower??....pfffffft

Lou: "just get me two lines, a piece of cloth and a bar....I'll work it out"

thanks for for the inspiration!
kkiter
kkiter

NSW

452 posts

18 Mar 2018 3:58pm
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IanR said..

kkiter said..
Do yourself a favour and try the Ozone Edge V9 before you make a final decision



Why don't you publish your woo results Glen.
Might just show how ordinary kiter you are on a kite specifically designed to jump big.


Ooooh bitchy. Did I touch a nerve snookums?
azza2u
azza2u

QLD

91 posts

19 Mar 2018 9:33am
Could always just look at the Woo results for Oz and see who's boosting highest and what they are using. Website doesn't let you drill down but the phone app will.
leaderboards.woosports.com/kite/bigair?mt=height&sd=1519862400&ed=1522540800&co=Oceania&cy=Australia

Of course big difference in heights depending on if you are kiting waves or in a bay and the ramps you get there. Personally on a 12m Cab Switchblade in bayside chop it will get my 95kg averaging around 7m up in the air, maxing out at about 10-11m (based on Woo results). That being said, I'm regularly beaten by 1-2m in the stats by a local bloke on a North Rebel, and 5m+ by guys on a surf beach.

Azza
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales

WA

1900 posts

19 Mar 2018 8:06am
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azza2u said..
Could always just look at the Woo results for Oz and see who's boosting highest and what they are using. Website doesn't let you drill down but the phone app will.


Haa did you mean Woo 1 meter or Woo 2 meter
Will the woo 3 Algorithm give an extra 30% like the 2 ???
Sylk
Sylk

WA

215 posts

19 Mar 2018 1:12pm
For jumps and hang-time you cant go past Flysurfer speed's
Hybrid_Z
Hybrid_Z

VIC

382 posts

20 Mar 2018 3:44am
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mikedk said..
Thank you all for great tips.
@dafish and @Hybrid_Z: Sure, I can refine my technique, but why not getting some help for a kite, if possible.
@glasstraxx Great piece of advice, I have two Naish Ride kites (7 and 11m) and 9m F-one Bandit, and find them very different. I find Bandit less stable, while Ride seems more jump friendly, thus my interests in Dash.

I have to admit it is the ksurf kite rank that got me to think about other brands: www.iksurfmag.com/awards/readers-awards-2017/best-kite-manufacturer-of-2017/


Do what you want buddy but its about 2k cheaper to work on your technique.
bjw
bjw

bjw

QLD

3687 posts

20 Mar 2018 7:01am
I reckon they should ban people from recommending the kite brand they currently own.

Otherwise it's like inviting a pimp into your wife's bed.
RAL INN
RAL INN

SA

2896 posts

20 Mar 2018 7:38am
It's a new video that come across my desk, but when you see the effort or lack thereof Alex puts into kite control and the importance of timing your pop from the water.
once again the message is "Technique ".
mikedk
mikedk

12 posts

20 Mar 2018 8:06am
Technique is in fact my priority, I do the best I can on this front :) but my old Naish Ride doesn't really help in learning kite loops. Anyways, I need to update my quiver, so why not getting a more playful kite...
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