It seems that every time I do lots of jumping, the next few days my abs are in a lot of pain. I assume it's from the ripping upwards movement when you load up the kite but I was wondering if this is normal and what I can do about it as it's pretty painful and takes days to recover (not the youngest anymore)...
Is it just a matter of practice/training in the gym?

Thanks

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Shark Biscuit said..
It seems that every time I do lots of jumping, the next few days my abs are in a lot of pain. I assume it's from the ripping upwards movement when you load up the kite but I was wondering if this is normal and what I can do about it as it's pretty painful and takes days to recover (not the youngest anymore)...
Is it just a matter of practice/training in the gym?

Thanks

I had ab pain when i first started properly kite surfing, jumping , go upwind etc.., basic ab stretches appeard to work and the pain went away once the muscles were conditioned.

Are you using a seat or waist harness ?

Getting a good fitting harness is very important and can really reduce that pain from jumping.

If you use a waist harness, I find that the more the harness is rising, the worst the ab pain gets.

Otherwise, yes, it's pretty much muscle training, make sure you get plenty of recovery between sessions.

It also helps to avoid overdoing it especially if you haven't kited in a while, you should avoid doing super long or overly intense jumping sessions as this will not only increase the pain but the recovery time as well.

It would be very hard to replicate those specific movements and explosive muscle tensions in the gym. I find with very specific movements like this it's just best to train through the activity itself. You just need to get better at planning the training load, training volume and recovery time.

That being said, if you have weak abs and have long periods without any kiting, it can definitely help to do some core strength training. If you do, try to pick more explosive ab exercises like med ball throwing for example.

Hope this helps

Christian - KiteBud

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Shark Biscuit said..
It seems that every time I do lots of jumping, the next few days my abs are in a lot of pain. I assume it's from the ripping upwards movement when you load up the kite but I was wondering if this is normal and what I can do about it as it's pretty painful and takes days to recover (not the youngest anymore)...
Is it just a matter of practice/training in the gym?

Thanks

Hi Shark, yes indeed abs get worked hard when jumping, for me it was a step more. I ripped my stomach muscles and have been for a scan. No sports till healed and that was last year november . Only now its getting better. So yes jumping can ruin your abs. Also i was using a crappy jumpimg board, so the lighter the better.

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IanHaggis said..

Shark Biscuit said..
It seems that every time I do lots of jumping, the next few days my abs are in a lot of pain. I assume it's from the ripping upwards movement when you load up the kite but I was wondering if this is normal and what I can do about it as it's pretty painful and takes days to recover (not the youngest anymore)...
Is it just a matter of practice/training in the gym?

Thanks

Hi Shark, yes indeed abs get worked hard when jumping, for me it was a step more. I ripped my stomach muscles and have been for a scan. No sports till healed and that was last year november . Only now its getting better. So yes jumping can ruin your abs. Also i was using a crappy jumpimg board, so the lighter the better.

Wow sorry to hear that mate. Hope you're back on the water soon.

The idea about a lighter board is interesting, I hadn't considered that yet...

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Sandfoot said..

Shark Biscuit said..
It seems that every time I do lots of jumping, the next few days my abs are in a lot of pain. I assume it's from the ripping upwards movement when you load up the kite but I was wondering if this is normal and what I can do about it as it's pretty painful and takes days to recover (not the youngest anymore)...
Is it just a matter of practice/training in the gym?

Thanks

I had ab pain when i first started properly kite surfing, jumping , go upwind etc.., basic ab stretches appeard to work and the pain went away once the muscles were conditioned.

Was my first session of the season so perhaps it's just conditioning. I reckon it took nearly a week for the recovery. Anyway I'll go back out today so hopefully the pain will be less...

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KiteBud said..
Are you using a seat or waist harness ?

Getting a good fitting harness is very important and can really reduce that pain from jumping.

If you use a waist harness, I find that the more the harness is rising, the worst the ab pain gets.

Otherwise, yes, it's pretty much muscle training, make sure you get plenty of recovery between sessions.

It also helps to avoid overdoing it especially if you haven't kited in a while, you should avoid doing super long or overly intense jumping sessions as this will not only increase the pain but the recovery time as well.

It would be very hard to replicate those specific movements and explosive muscle tensions in the gym. I find with very specific movements like this it's just best to train through the activity itself. You just need to get better at planning the training load, training volume and recovery time.

That being said, if you have weak abs and have long periods without any kiting, it can definitely help to do some core strength training. If you do, try to pick more explosive ab exercises like med ball throwing for example.

Hope this helps

Christian - KiteBud

Good advice thanks Christian. I had noticed that my waist harness definitely had traveled up so I need to fit it lower and tighter in my next sesh.
Will add more core exercises. I typically just do weights...

Its just like youve been to gym and done lots of situps. No problem! Yr getting a good wprkoutvfrom your hobby. Enjoy

I always found that jumping didn't hurt but getting my board back did . When ever I would work on a new trick and crash lots body dragging back up wind would make my abs burn for the next day .

Step 1 : unhook

ride strapless and never jump again.

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Spitfire said..
ride strapless and never jump again.

xxxx

Don't say that...or we'll have all the twinnies off their twinnies and on surfboards and up at our spots
It's already got bad enough attempted lips and jumps on them there
Then watch them loose a fin in the same place where we lost a fin more than ten years ago ..(pretty sure mine would have been a 'twintip fin')..

I keep telling them the pond is the best place to be

Only the pond and the Carnarvon puddle and maybe horrocks is ever worth having a session at ...

V good point though and v true

People who ride surfboards under the power of a kite are like women who became nuns due to living in country towns and were to ugly for the local farmers to get wed.

Its fair enough you gotto deal with the hand youve been delt that being cant afford the hours or physical ability required for freestyle kiteboarding but to dress up your misfortune as anything other then makeing do with the poor offerings god has bestown apon you is straight up rightous. You just look those horrible old crones with the warts and **** yelling at young chicks for being sinners or some ****. We all know you aint where you want to be in the world if you could throw a handlepass down and stomp it out thats all youd be doing all day and if you knew how to actually surf theyre aint no way in hell you be pumping up a kite before you do it. I actually surf. Like proper surf and theres always a headland or bay that aimt wond effected that got some mad swell popping so you only kiteing with a surfboard cause you failed at surfing.

Aint no body throwing down and stomping moving to surfboards you merely lacked the time and ability to make it work and in some juvenile way have decided takeing the easiest lamest path somehow equates to the better path.

Surfing > freestyle kiteboarding
Freestyle kiteboarding > kiteing with a surfboard
Kiteing with a surfboard > jetskiing


So i dont hate ya i just feel sorry for ya cause this **** tske time to learn and you clearly dont have that. Kiteing with a surfboar? always hasbeen always will be some second handy down ****

You think you in the church but no one watching go yell some alleluahas out the back where we cant see ya wrinkle ass

@froth goth that is a great comment about the nuns ?????? do more jumps u will have abs like Mitch bucaannon in no time. A true kiter knows themselves by the end of the season they have muscle definition on their toes when they sit to do a number two

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Froth Goth said..
People who ride surfboards under the power of a kite are like women who became nuns due to living in country towns and were to ugly for the local farmers to get wed.

Its fair enough you gotto deal with the hand youve been delt that being cant afford the hours or physical ability required for freestyle kiteboarding but to dress up your misfortune as anything other then makeing do with the poor offerings god has bestown apon you is straight up rightous. You just look those horrible old crones with the warts and **** yelling at young chicks for being sinners or some ****. We all know you aint where you want to be in the world if you could throw a handlepass down and stomp it out thats all youd be doing all day and if you knew how to actually surf theyre aint no way in hell you be pumping up a kite before you do it. I actually surf. Like proper surf and theres always a headland or bay that aimt wond effected that got some mad swell popping so you only kiteing with a surfboard cause you failed at surfing.

Aint no body throwing down and stomping moving to surfboards you merely lacked the time and ability to make it work and in some juvenile way have decided takeing the easiest lamest path somehow equates to the better path.

Surfing > freestyle kiteboarding
Freestyle kiteboarding > kiteing with a surfboard
Kiteing with a surfboard > jetskiing


So i dont hate ya i just feel sorry for ya cause this **** tske time to learn and you clearly dont have that. Kiteing with a surfboar? always hasbeen always will be some second handy down ****

You think you in the church but no one watching go yell some alleluahas out the back where we cant see ya wrinkle ass

You are forgetting one important thing. Some of us don't have big enough surfable waves that we could ride without a kite. If we did, most likely we would be surfing also.

Espana23 t?ust me as someone whose been plagued by this stupid bloody barrier reef im well aware how much coral and natural wonders can ruin waves. Thats why you gotto bear grills it up and learn to boot on and throw down like a clowns frown

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Espana23 t?ust me as someone whose been plagued by this stupid bloody barrier reef im well aware how much coral and natural wonders can ruin waves. Thats why you gotto bear grills it up and learn to boot on and throw down like a clowns frown

One more thing you might be forgetting. Some of us are getting old and our knees are precious. We need to take good care of them so we can kite until our 70s and hopefully 80s. :)

Then stop rideing **** boards and get something with plenty of rocker and some boots.

Never ever once have i ubderstood this argument ?bout age and comfort.

If i seen people wakeboarding and absolutely slamming stomping tricks off huge ramps and they were perfectly fine then my curiosity would make me wonder hay if theyre equipment allow?d them to do that without blowing up theyre knees and tearing labrums like a fat kids samboy packet on the bus before school even started then i would kinda put 2 and 2 together and go hmmmmmm maybe all that bottom shape and rocker and big cushioned boots displaces all that energy with the board design and the big cushioned boots absorb what little is left

Maybe rather then listening to a bunch of inexperienced silly old ?ooks at my local or even worse the shop who doesnt stock high end equipment because "it doesnt sell" i should consult the profesionals

And all the profesionals would say they would absolutely have snapped theyre legs and theyre board in half if they were useing 90% of the kiteboards that are being sold today aka "freeride" pricepoint barry basic boards.

What makes you think a surfboard not even a regular one but an actual firmed up stiffer version of a surfboard with even less give a?d flex in it would mean its better for ya knees?

Sure the act of rolling over and exposwing your belly to the sun in your old age feels safer then running after the car down the driveway but it doesnt mean its actually better for you.

I know this because i use rockered out wakeboards with boots AND surfboards and i can tell you the wakestyle board is millions of times better for my "knees" and everything else to do with my body.

If i was **** at kiteing and didnt know to just ride a larger kite when useing it then i would have a cry because it was more difficult to "ride upwind" and i would compare it to my surfboard on the same kite size and go wowweee its so easy toride upwind on my surfboard compared to that wakeboard "even tho reality is i should be on a smaller kite now but im to **** to know this"

And thus the painfully obvious b?ll**** story about surfboards being better for dieing old dogs is born and repeated

YoU all should literally be on pure c kites for ya tired old arms (ever noticed tiny chicks use em just fine) and wakestyle boards for ya snaptastic ligaments and tendons

Only time you should be on a surfboard is if you left your kite at home

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Froth Goth said..
Espana23 t?ust me as someone whose been plagued by this stupid bloody barrier reef im well aware how much coral and natural wonders can ruin waves. Thats why you gotto bear grills it up and learn to boot on and throw down like a clowns frown

One more thing you might be forgetting. Some of us are getting old and our knees are precious. We need to take good care of them so we can kite until our 70s and hopefully 80s. :)

Eat fish. The Astaxanthin in seafood is great for your joints.
Do squats and Nordic Curls. Strengthening all the bits around your knees makes your knees bulletproof.
Never too late to start, but start slowly, injuries from trying to hard will only halt progress.

Oh were at the health advice giving stage ay

Tell an old man common sense will go down a treat so ill let ai do it















Just make sure you do all of this in the confines of a hammock and youll he alright matey

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Froth Goth said..
Just make sure you do all of this in the confines of a hammock and youll he alright matey

How on earth did U guess the current situation in my life waiting for car parts from your beloved east coast due to oh so wonderful super remote WA..
...not joking either
...U must be a genius ...

Never go anywhere without one...(!)

I am going back to yachts...way easier

I just got off it and put it away sorry experience is over
Was nice while it lasted...

Hahahhahabloody classic Timmy right back at ya hang on




Pardon the rubics cube on the table

Anyways all jokes aside if you want to wipe your memory of big kite industry propaganda for a minute guys then just look at cliff diving..... a big flat surface aka belly flop creates the most pain but a streamlined small surface creates far less

Now imagine you were to drop each board straight down

Which one would be better for ya knees?
So that's thr up and down axis taken care of


Now for the next part that whole left to right business

What handles chop better a sup or a kayak with its rocker ?

Or how about just any craft with more rocker and one without?

Anyways my analogy socks but hopefully yas get a bit of an idea on what I'm trying to put forward.

There's a reason why marathon distance running shoes like hokas with inches and inches of foam are being used over the more classic style new balances (who have now got the mega thick foam version too) because the impacts can indeed hurt your joints etc

But it's very very clear to me *again I use both styles of boards regularly* that the impacts from my wakestyle boards with loads of rocker and boots is far less and therefore better for me then a surfboard.

So give your knee surgeon the flick and grab yourself a wakestyle board and some cushioned boots

As a side note 15 minutes of training actually increases your tendon and joint strength longer then 15 can start to make it plateau and about a hour or 2 can start to degrade it, so don't run for more then 15 or 30 minutes and then lift heavy (but not too heavy) for bone density and you'll be surprised how robust you can make your once torn up withered old joints.

I'll try find my favourite knee rejuvenation podcast from gavins training day

www.cloudbasemayhem.com/?powerpress_pinw=1046-podcast so essentially ex pro skier blew knees up skiing they were useless for 20 years but with some proper training led him to be able to do 100km walks and runs each day after day

There's no reason why you guys can't do it to and then you can finally retire this old false adage that once you get old and Decrepit you gotta hang up the twinny for a surfboard. It's simply not the case or true in anyway shape or form.

Wait till you start jumping a Kite Foil board !

Sounds like you are just getting your jumping fitness going. Keep at it mate. Time and more jumping will fix it !