Hey so I'm in the market for my first board and I've come across this little thing:

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It's a 'semi directional twin tip'.... I can see what they mean by semi directional; the front foot pad is angled while the back is horizontal and the front half has more rocker than the back.

I'm having trouble understanding the concept... Why make an asymmetrical twin tip? Wont it be hard to travel in the unfavourable direction? Is this board suitable for a beginner? Will I be able to travel both directions with the same ease?


Cheers folk

It's a normal board. They've just taken 2 fins off the front and changed the position of the foot pads. It's just showing you how to set it up if you want to ride like that, though why you would i don't know.

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Beersy said...

It's a normal board. They've just taken 2 fins off the front and changed the position of the foot pads. It's just showing you how to set it up if you want to ride like that, though why you would i don't know.

It's a board that can ride in surf as well as flat, albeit I am unsure how well it works. It's gotten sick reviews though.

Isn't a 'semi directional twin tip' called a mutant?

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deXtrous said...

Beersy said...

It's a normal board. They've just taken 2 fins off the front and changed the position of the foot pads. It's just showing you how to set it up if you want to ride like that, though why you would i don't know.

It's a board that can ride in surf as well as flat, albeit I am unsure how well it works. It's gotten sick reviews though.

You can ride any twin tip in the surf. There's nothing special about this board. I you look up the top you can see they've drawn holes where the other fins would go in. Just a normal twinny with the pads changed.

It's a Mutant, you can see the assymetrical rocker line on the right.

Don't reinvent the wheel dextrous, just look for a regular Twin Tip that suits your weight as a beginner.
There are a lot of good entry level boards on the market now, and heaps second hand in the buy and sell.
Get a bright coloured one that you'll be able to see in the water because you're going to be doing a lot of body dragging.

Have a look at www.liquidsurfdesigns.com.au/main/page_tb_kiteboarding.html or www.tbkiteboarding.com/en/index.php - 15k. I have been riding the Haura XXL (102kg, 198cm) for about a year and I'm more than happy with it. Check the review posted www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=43864 or google "haura xxl".All the comments have been rejustified with time.
Constant winds,
Baz.

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tobes said...

It's a Mutant, you can see the assymetrical rocker line on the right.

Don't reinvent the wheel dextrous, just look for a regular Twin Tip that suits your weight as a beginner.
There are a lot of good entry level boards on the market now, and heaps second hand in the buy and sell.
Get a bright coloured one that you'll be able to see in the water because you're going to be doing a lot of body dragging.

Nope, Just a normal twinny, look at the screw positions for the Pads.

Not a normal twinny, firstly the fins are 3 at the rear and one at the front. Also the pads are moved rearwards with the rear straightened over the centreline.
As compared to:



to this







Constant winds,
Baz.

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Baz said...

Not a normal twinny, firstly the fins are 3 at the rear and one at the front. Also the pads are moved rearwards with the rear straightened over the centreline.

Constant winds,
Baz.

That's exactly what i was saying. It's a normal twinny that's had pad and fin positions changed. It's not a specially designed mutant board.

It's drawing on a snowboard setup. Unless you ride a dedicated park board or a snowkiting board, the bindings are set to the rear of the board. You also can have your rear foot angled less duck stance than your front foot, or even a couple of degrees forward.

DeX - from what I have seen of you on this forum, you are just getting into the sport - just go for something simple and all round. Something like a Naish Haze - good for beginners and probably you will get a few seasons out of it. They are also solid wood core - and built not to break.

You just need to stop over-analysing everything and get out there mate.

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lostinlondon said...

It's drawing on a snowboard setup. Unless you ride a dedicated park board or a snowkiting board, the bindings are set to the rear of the board. You also can have your rear foot angled less duck stance than your front foot, or even a couple of degrees forward.

DeX - from what I have seen of you on this forum, you are just getting into the sport - just go for something simple and all round. Something like a Naish Haze - good for beginners and probably you will get a few seasons out of it. They are also solid wood core - and built not to break.

You just need to stop over-analysing everything and get out there mate.

I don't really think I was over analysing anything in this thread? I was merely asking if this board was alright for a beginner as it seems a tad out of the norm. Also I have gotten out there and taken lessons and also been for a couple body dragging sessions.

I'd like to buy an allrounder board that's gonna last me a while which is why I'm a bit nitpicky about which one I am going to buy.

I think the rocker is shown as asymmetrical simply because the pads are in an uneven/asymmetrical position (in that first picture), making the rocker lean more to one side. If the pads were equal like the second picture maybe the rocker would even out? I don't think it's reinventing the wheel, but rather giving me more options and possibly even a one board quiver... I'm just unaware of what is wrong with this board :S

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deXtrous said...

lostinlondon said...

It's drawing on a snowboard setup. Unless you ride a dedicated park board or a snowkiting board, the bindings are set to the rear of the board. You also can have your rear foot angled less duck stance than your front foot, or even a couple of degrees forward.

DeX - from what I have seen of you on this forum, you are just getting into the sport - just go for something simple and all round. Something like a Naish Haze - good for beginners and probably you will get a few seasons out of it. They are also solid wood core - and built not to break.

You just need to stop over-analysing everything and get out there mate.

I don't really think I was over analysing anything in this thread? I was merely asking if this board was alright for a beginner as it seems a tad out of the norm. Also I have gotten out there and taken lessons and also been for a couple body dragging sessions.

I'd like to buy an allrounder board that's gonna last me a while which is why I'm a bit nitpicky about which one I am going to buy.

I think the rocker is shown as asymmetrical simply because the pads are in an uneven/asymmetrical position (in that first picture), making the rocker lean more to one side. I don't think it's reinventing the wheel, but rather giving me more options and possibly even a one board quiver.

In answer to your question, like everyone else has said, No, this is NOT a good board for a beginner.

"No, this is NOT a good board for a beginner."
You know this because you have ridden one?

^^^That's right. I think what we were saying was "try the board normally (and learn to ride it) before messing around with pad and fin positions."