warwickl said..
Received and assembled

warwickl said..





Naish medium is a very good foil once graphics are all wet and dry 1200 grit smooth sanded.
However now having foiled the Moses 683 Naish is not as smooth.
Yesterday's conditions and today's were similar ie less than 10k wind speed using 10.4 strutless kite.
Results from my GPS watch were close with 683 very slightly faster.
So in summary I feel for my ability I have reached the best I'll get out of the Naish and feel the 683 Moses being faster in acceleration, smoothness and playfulness will help me progress.
Note: my demo on the 683 was on a 60cm mast so harder to push for speed .
Naish is on 70cm mast.
I will keep my Naish and may (most likely) get the 683.

riddim1 said..




Hi Warwick,
Could I confirm if your Naish Med is the 2018 or 2019 model and what Naish rear wing you were riding in comparing with the Moses 683 ie. The Surf or the KS 2?
cheers

warwickl said..
I know I promised no more comment.
But check the max speed I did on my Moses 683 today in a short session.

warwickl said..
Despite my best effort I launched my 10.4 Strutless Cloud kite in less than 3kn breeze and it flew nicely.

Livit said..




We know they can float in very light wind but I am struggling to believe it would fly nicely in less than 3kn....

airsail said..
I have had similar glitches, but not that large with my garmin. Seems to happen if my wrist is slightly underwater when the watch checks in with the satellite, eg after a crash.

warwickl said..




My Naish medium is the SUP surf wing and rear wing ie the heavy one with yellow graphics . Not the kite medium.
Not the latest light version which is possibly the 2019.
I have foiled on both and can not tell the difference once up on the foil.
I have the 2019 lighter XL version for SUP foiling.

Duff15 said..




Have you tried surf foiling yet? Keen to try it

warwickl said..

20 to 25 kn wind on a lake with

Duff15 said..
Just had a **** hot session on this baby. 15-25 knots on a 4m kite. Sop much fun. Would recommend you try and demo the 683.

benmj said..
HI Natho
The 683 S is the kite / surf wing fits on the 749 fuselage and the new 710 fuselage and the windsurf fuselage
The 683 is the windsurf specific wing, it fits on the windsurf fuselage
No gaps
Hope this helps

warwickl said..




I had a gap on my 683S to 749 however checking today it almost closed up.
I hope this is good without distorting the wing?

natho6026961 said..






Seems bizarre to have any gap. How big do you reckon it was? Apparently the 633 doesn't have a gap when bolted to the same fuse...

natho6026961 said..




Hey Duff, Having looked into Moses wings a bit I can see now that you guys are actually talking about, specifically, the "683S" wing, the surf wing, rather than the "683" wing, which is the windsurf wing. I thought the Slingshot wings were confusing until I started looking at Moses!
The 683 and 683S appear to be different wings despite their almost identical names
How is the leading edge fit with the fuselage? Do you notice any gap?
Any closeups you can post would be appreciated.
Do you have the 710 or the 749 fuselage?

warwickl said..





More than 1.5mm, it's now about .5mm

Duff15 said..




Hey mate, I have zero gaps on mine. If there is it may possibly need a tighten up? Moses has a great reputation and stand by there products. This is my second Moses set up and had zero issues/problems.

Get a demo if you get a chance you will not regret it. Any questions let me know.

natho6026961 said..




Looks like some get a gap and others don't. It's being discussed on kiteforum. I guess no product is perfect and there are acceptable tolerances. Not trying to run down Moses. I've just ordered the slingshot moses adapter (to delay buying a moses mast for a while). Based on what everyone else reckons, the 683S seems like a good wing

DukeSilver said..
Hey Natho,

I'm just about to do the same as you - buy the Slingshot mast adapter, and get the Moses 683s. Sounds like a great wing and just what I want. Can you tell me where you ordered the adapter from and what it cost please? I also saw the wing / fuse gap on Kiteforum. I hope it's not a common issue.

natho6026961 said..




Texas City, direct from Foilmount.com. Couldn't find one in Aus. $100 USD including freight, $144 AUD. Ultimately I want the Moses 101 mast, one day. I figure if I buy in increments it doesn't hurt so much! In any event I'll still want a shorter mast and plan to use the SS setup. There's a vid on youtube using the adapter and they reckon the difference was pretty much negligible.

DukeSilver said..
Cool, thanks for the info. I'm going to get the 91 eventually I think. Apparently Jim Stringfellow makes an adapter thats more hydrodynamic than the original one. I'll be keen to hear how it goes once you get it.