cammd said..

IanR said..
It clearly states it in the second document but if you need it in the legal format it is in the statement of fact from the indictment

manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/2023-04-04-SOF.pdf

I cannot see which felony count on the indictment lista election crime, perhaps you can point it out for me ......on the indictment, not some other document.

Because due process demands you should be notified of the thing your being charged for.

A statement of fact after the trial had begun doesn't cut it.

The Statement of Fact is Part of the Indictment
The Trial Started on 15/04/2024 The Statement of Fact was published on 04/04/2023 a full year before the start of the trial. You do know what year it is don't you

It is pointless trying to discuss anything with someone who is in the Cult of DJT
Your arrogance and ignorance is astounding

PS I have nothing more to say about the fact that Donald John Trump is a Criminal

Thanks for replying fangman & D3.

Yup they are all good points. I guess I found this study interesting because we were led to believe that 50+ year old covid vaxxed people were 7-10 times more likely to not die than the unvaccinated according to Remery's studies and various media outlets over the years. This particular study paints a very different picture.

Flying Dutchman said..
Thanks for replying fangman & D3.

Yup they are all good points. I guess I found this study interesting because we were led to believe that 50+ year old covid vaxxed people were 7-10 times more likely to not die than the unvaccinated according to Remery's studies and various media outlets over the years. This particular study paints a very different picture.

I haven't done any studies on immunology.

Flying Dutchman said..
Thanks for replying fangman & D3.

Yup they are all good points. I guess I found this study interesting because we were led to believe that 50+ year old covid vaxxed people were 7-10 times more likely to not die than the unvaccinated according to Remery's studies and various media outlets over the years. This particular study paints a very different picture.

This review is a more in depth investigation an cites the paper you provided. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10973921/
"Interestingly, this IgG4 production was detected following SARS-CoV-2 infection and after administration of anti-COVID-19 products, perfectly suggesting both the allergenic and tolerogenic side of the Spike protein and, thus, the production of this type of antibody by repeated exposure to this viral component [260-263]."

I haven't read the whole review but it seems to be suggesting induced immune tolerance.

Getting back to the paper you presented; you left this part out of their conclusion...
"This finding raises the possibility that an aberrant immunopathological response to vaccination in a subset of patients might have contributed to the inadequate response to COVID-19 vaccines. This speculative observation warrants additional research regarding heterogeneous host responses to vaccination. It is also important to note that overall frailty is recognized as a reliable predictor of clinical outcomes of COVID-19 followed by age and comorbidities. However, elderly, and those with various comorbid conditions and increased frailty index, were not adequately represented in the conducted clinical COVID-19 vaccine trials. This significant omission is highlighted by our current and other similar studies and suggest the need for better vaccines or other therapies for certain at-risk populations."

It seems to me, and I might be wrong, that both papers are saying that a small number of frail people may not get the hoped-for protection from the vaccine, and that, if they get COVID, they may die of COVID not the vaccine.I'm happy to be corrected with intelligent discourse, ie, not a meme.

Hardly a representative sample of the population.

"We obtained banked plasma samples from the Ohio State University Intensive Care Unit Registry (BuckICU) collected from individuals admitted to The Ohio State University (OSU) hospitals from May 2020 to November 2022. This biorepository collects longitudinal biospecimens and associated clinical data from hospitalized patients tested positive for COVID-19 (by RT-PCR) and non-COVID-19 respiratory failure of varying severity. Notably, the cohort is enriched for critically ill patients admitted to the Intensive Care Unit (ICU)."

Pcdefender said..

remery said..

Pcdefender said..

That's a really dark thing to post. Even worse if you're implying that the vaccine would have saved her.

Many on here have said on previous occasions the C19 vax was safe.

Countless times also on the MSM the talking head gurus spouted the lie safe and effective.

According to the Australian TGA there is around140K adverse events reports.

Yes, some of those who reported harm had more than one adverse reaction.

Estimated only around 10 percent of all harm is ever reported.

So the number is massive.

They pushed the lie often on the MSM safe and effective.

With injuries it is therefore not safe.

Pcdefender said..
According to the Australian TGA there is around140K adverse events reports.

Yes, some of those who reported harm had more than one adverse reaction.

Estimated only around 10 percent of all harm is ever reported.

So the number is massive.

They pushed the lie often on the MSM safe and effective.

With injuries it is therefore not safe.

You posted about a 48 year-old woman who died recently, and because a news report used "dies suddenly" you immediately go looking for a vaccine to blame?

140,000 X 10 = 1.4 million.
Surely that's a big enough number for us to actually see those people being sick/hospitalised?

Although you could go to DAEN and look at the reports that have been submitted.

daen.tga.gov.au/medicines-search/

Apparently 1,000 reports of people dying after vaccination (68 million doses)

If you're threshold for whether a treatment or medical procedure is safe is : Zero injuries.

Then, it seems a fair chunk of our effective treatments (anti biotics, antivirals, pain relief etc) are unsafe.
Also a lot of SCAM treatments (acupuncture, chiropractic, essential oils etc) are also unsafe.

Even Ivermectin and HCQ have reported deaths on DAEN

So you want your diagnosis listed as a side effect of entirely different product?

D3 said..
If you're threshold for whether a treatment or medical procedure is safe is : Zero injuries.

Then, it seems a fair chunk of our effective treatments (anti biotics, antivirals, pain relief etc) are unsafe.
Also a lot of SCAM treatments (acupuncture, chiropractic, essential oils etc) are also unsafe.

Even Ivermectin and HCQ have reported deaths on DAEN

All medicines present an element of risk for sure. Most of them carry warnings. New ones present the worst element of risk as they've yet to be widely used.

Our exercise and eating habits carry the biggest risks. Healthy people are less likely to get sick and when they do they generally heal more quickly.
They also are unlikely to be using any pharmaceutical product frequently. Less or zero risk.