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Unhook3d
Unhook3d

WA

467 posts

8 Nov 2017 9:58pm
so, I had a discussion with a work colleague regarding roads in our wonderful country posted as unlimited speed (black circle with a black line through the middle on a 45 deg angle) and he claims that these roads are max limited to 110km/hr in Western Australia?
I don't believe this to be correct, as I am quite confident that I know that in NT, these roads are definitely unlimited speed provided you drive to the conditions (i.e., police could prosecute if I drove at a ridiculous speed not suited to the local conditions at the time)

however, I a struggling to find any reliable evidence to support either case as the rule applies to particularly WA? I would like to find reference to a gov source to support his stance or my thoughts?
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

8 Nov 2017 10:45pm
Your mate is right, WA applied a blanket speed limit of 110km/hr many moons ago.
They still haven't got around to replacing all the unlimited signs yet. You won't see very many of them, and the ones you do see are very old.

try here.
www.police.wa.gov.au/Traffic/Cameras/Speed/Speed-limits

the bottom of the page says,
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the default speed limit for open areas is 110 km/h. This applies on roads outside built-up areas.
the derestricted speed zone limit is 110 km/h and this applies only to areas as signposted outside the metropolitan area.
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

8 Nov 2017 10:51pm
I always took those signs to mean "no restrictions" rather than no speed limit.

i was under the impression NT was the only territory with rds that have no speed limit. But maybe that too could be a falsehood created by some one misinterpreting the signs? We definitely have them up north in WA.
mick14
mick14

SA

343 posts

9 Nov 2017 7:35pm
The sign actually means State Limit.
SA has a State Limit of 110 km/h.
NT doesn't have a State Limit, and I think it is the only one that doesn't, so in WA it would mean 100 or 110, not unlimited.
MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T

WA

1019 posts

9 Nov 2017 6:04pm
NT now has a state limit of 130kms and i'd imagine it would have been a lot of fun driving at 250+.... legally ??

These days drop 3rd or do 20kms over and you're pretty much a top level criminal!

Mark _australia
Mark _australia

WA

23526 posts

9 Nov 2017 8:23pm
In WA it means state limit but you won't get advisory signs like a 80kph recommendation on a corner. In effect it means 110 but we won't give you any tips about corners etc.


Still a lot of them around out bush
slammin
slammin

QLD

998 posts

10 Nov 2017 5:49am
I lived in the NT during the open speed period and I'll point out the problem with open speed limits is your fuel consumption. See how far you get sitting on a silly speed. Then see how much the only fuel stop for 200ks in any direction charges and watch as that stupid guy sitting on 100k you overtook drives past you not stopping.
Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

10 Nov 2017 4:14am
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MDSXR6T said..
NT now has a state limit of 130kms and i'd imagine it would have been a lot of fun driving at 250+.... legally ??

These days drop 3rd or do 20kms over and you're pretty much a top level criminal!


Ha ha don't come to the Police State Of Victoria then. You'll get booked if you're doing 3-4km/h over. Criminal.
quikdrawMcgraw
quikdrawMcgraw

1221 posts

10 Nov 2017 4:31am
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slammin said..
I lived in the NT during the open speed period and I'll point out the problem with open speed limits is your fuel consumption. See how far you get sitting on a silly speed. Then see how much the only fuel stop for 200ks in any direction charges and watch as that stupid guy sitting on 100k you overtook drives past you not stopping.


Fuel consumption! Who cares about that stuff we'll just dig more up!
nicephotog
nicephotog

NSW

276 posts

17 Nov 2017 11:36am
The maximum speed is 120 Kmh through Australia and may be federal law, only because many years back after the roads by around 1990 had been remade into concrete highways they had some immense smashes of which speed was always to blame and they actually lowered the maximum country-wide to 100Kmh. That was too crippling economically on the transport industry and people begun to get killed by fatigue on long journeys (self defeating) so they brought it back up to 120 Kmh.
windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/PPL-light-aircraft.pdf
rod_bunny
rod_bunny

WA

1089 posts

17 Nov 2017 11:53am
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nicephotog said..
The maximum speed is 120 Kmh through Australia and may be federal law, only because many years back after the roads by around 1990 had been remade into concrete highways they had some immense smashes of which speed was always to blame and they actually lowered the maximum country-wide to 100Kmh. That was too crippling economically on the transport industry and people begun to get killed by fatigue on long journeys (self defeating) so they brought it back up to 120 Kmh.
windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/PPL-light-aircraft.pdf


^Source?
sn
sn

sn

WA

2775 posts

17 Nov 2017 6:28pm
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nicephotog said..
, only because many years back after the roads by around 1990 had been remade into concrete highways ............


concrete highways???

I've never driven on anything other than bitumen, bulldust or gravel.
Chris6791
Chris6791

WA

3271 posts

17 Nov 2017 7:25pm
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Unhook3d said..
so, I had a discussion with a work colleague regarding roads in our wonderful country posted as unlimited speed (black circle with a black line through the middle on a 45 deg angle) and he claims that these roads are max limited to 110km/hr in Western Australia?
I don't believe this to be correct, as I am quite confident that I know that in NT, these roads are definitely unlimited speed provided you drive to the conditions (i.e., police could prosecute if I drove at a ridiculous speed not suited to the local conditions at the time)

however, I a struggling to find any reliable evidence to support either case as the rule applies to particularly WA? I would like to find reference to a gov source to support his stance or my thoughts?




www.slp.wa.gov.au/legislation/statutes.nsf/law_s257.html

Page 9 on either the PDF or Word doc. As official as you can get.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia

WA

23526 posts

17 Nov 2017 8:58pm
^^ No no lets all theorise and talk about 120kph, goes as fast as you want and stuff.

nicephotog
nicephotog

NSW

276 posts

18 Nov 2017 6:38pm
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sn said..

nicephotog said..
, only because many years back after the roads by around 1990 had been remade into concrete highways ............



concrete highways???

I've never driven on anything other than bitumen, bulldust or gravel.


Plenty of multi lane roads in Australia have a cement/concrete surface, BUT, mainly cement is under the bitumen surface !
Waste of time to drive a car in this country because it is not (for most or all) legal to go faster than 120Kmh but more than that to do it the concentration and work "overhead" at driving a road vehicle is immense.
This is following type of activity is that should be occurring (for any long distance or "to out of town" travel) and is now around average wage earner level since 2013.
http://www.bushcatusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/BushCatSpecs2017.pdf
windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/PPL-light-aircraft.pdf
rod_bunny
rod_bunny

WA

1089 posts

19 Nov 2017 9:11am
^^^ WTF?
nicephotog
nicephotog

NSW

276 posts

20 Nov 2017 1:47pm
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rod_bunny said..
^^^ WTF?


Didn't i mention Portland cement ??? Ciment fondu or a simple plain concrete !???
rod_bunny
rod_bunny

WA

1089 posts

20 Nov 2017 8:00pm
Thanks! That cleared it up.










elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

29 Nov 2017 6:56pm
Slower speeds and still colliding with each other, 80km soon

www.perthnow.com.au/news/traffic/two-men-injured-in-head-on-crash-on-indian-ocean-drive-ng-b88675378z


Two men injured in head-on crash on Indian Ocean Drive

Staff reporter, PerthNow November 29, 2017 11:57AM

Two men have been injured on a notorious stretch of road north of Perth.

Two cars hit each other head-on on Indian Ocean Drive about 9km south of Cervantes at 10.15am.

The men were taken by ambulance to Joondalup Health Campus and the extent of their injuries is unknown.

The crash comes less than a month after the State Government slashed the speed limit on Indian Ocean Drive after a series of crashes which have seen ten people die in the last 18 months alone.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia

WA

23526 posts

29 Nov 2017 9:07pm
^^^ and that is the new good bit.

Maybe its not the speed limit or the road!!!!
elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

30 Nov 2017 12:59pm
A road is only dangerous the first time you use it,,

After that baaing semi naked sheep (for the kiwis) falling space stations and kangaroos armed with M50's, it is always the driver.

You (not aimed at any individuals) don't need to speed or sit on the speed limit, you don't have to overtake that slow moving caravan. You can never stop a Kiwi staring at naked sheeps.
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