my neighbour recently received a quote to remove her fibreglass pool and fill the hole.

she was quoted $18 000 which seems like alot.

does anyone know what this should roughly cost?

could she have the top 300mm removed, break holes in the bottom then fill it?

are there regulations/codes she needs to consider?

thanks.

That price you could dig and install a new pool. way way too much

Your neighbour needs some lovin'

Check with the council and their regs on removal or just fill the bastard. I'd be just filling the bastard but as you said perforate the bottom to encourage good drainage and knocking off the top edge or 300 as you suggested.

Gumtree is your friend too. Advertise for clean fill. Generally people digging for a pool want to rid of the overburden and it's generally clean dirt.

So be a good neighbour call a few mates, arrange tools for the job, some beers, bbq and an inflatable paddle pool and save the neighbour $18000.

water snail farm. sell them to the chinese.

I had my concrete pool dug in and built a shed over the top! used a rock breaker to push the top thickening in and then punched holes in the base. I had trucks of uncleaneed sand (cheap and fills all the spaces) dumped into the pit and hosed in with water (a fire hydrant does this well) then topped of with compacted fill. Slab has only minor cracking but these could be just shrinkage cracks.

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Hardcarve1 said..
I had my concrete pool dug in and built a shed over the top! used a rock breaker to push the top thickening in and then punched holes in the base. I had trucks of uncleaneed sand (cheap and fills all the spaces) dumped into the pit and hosed in with water (a fire hydrant does this well) then topped of with compacted fill. Slab has only minor cracking but these could be just shrinkage cracks.

And you didnt leave a secret bunker buried under there?

Would have made a nice wine cellar etc...

Tell her to advertise on gumtree.

"Free pool you remove."

Neighbours did this, had three calls and was gone in a week. They even organised and paid for the crane.

Then just organise a bobcat for half a day to fill in the hole.

Probably $400 -$600 plus fill, as mentioned above if clean fill isn't required it'll cost diddly.

In sydeny you need a council permit to fill .
You can't dump any soil except at the tip with out a permit .

From someone currently considering installing a pool!

Pool to pond conversions:www.abc.net.au/gardening/factsheets/a-suburban-oasis/9435162

Slab over the top - bunker for forthcoming end of the world. Read all about it here:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/General-Discussion/Heavy-Weather/

ring a demo contractor then local earthworks operator, ask for clean and compacted fill
oh, ring council first, may need a demo permit

I would think a fiberglass pool could just be cut up with a sawzall by a laborer and hauled away in small pieces.

Better yet, take the sawzall, cut the top 1/2 meter off, all the way around, throw the pieces in the bottom, then bury the whole damn thing, and walk away.

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Beaglebuddy said..
I would think a fiberglass pool could just be cut up with a sawzall by a laborer and hauled away in small pieces.

yes but they are taking it away for a new coat of blue gelcoat on the inside and to sell again.
So they get it both ways........... that's why removal is supposed to be cheap (labour cost only) but these guys are obviously taking the p!ss

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Mark _australia said..
Slab over the top - bunker for forthcoming end of the world. Read all about it here:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/General-Discussion/Heavy-Weather/

Fill it with scrap steel, its the new silver.

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Chris6791 said..

Mark _australia said..
Slab over the top - bunker for forthcoming end of the world. Read all about it here:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/General-Discussion/Heavy-Weather/

Fill it with scrap steel, its the new silver.

Fill it with petrol in a 100,000 bladder (~$12,000) and laugh when the petrol price doubles again...

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Poida said..
ring a demo contractor then local earthworks operator, ask for clean and compacted fill
oh, ring council first, may need a demo permit

Clean and compacted fill? Surely its only compacted once you put it into the hole

grow a heap of weed, build a kiosk/burger bar next to it, then open it up to the local scateboarders, youll make a killing

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Mark _australia said...

Beaglebuddy said..
I would think a fiberglass pool could just be cut up with a sawzall by a laborer and hauled away in small pieces.

yes but they are taking it away for a new coat of blue gelcoat on the inside and to sell again.
So they get it both ways........... that's why removal is supposed to be cheap (labour cost only) but these guys are obviously taking the p!ss

One of my old co workers dad did/does this. Removes fibreglass pools, refurbs them and then uses the sand from the new owner to fill in the hole.

I think it's a win win all round.

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kiteboy dave said..

Chris6791 said..

Mark _australia said..
Slab over the top - bunker for forthcoming end of the world. Read all about it here:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/General-Discussion/Heavy-Weather/

Fill it with scrap steel, its the new silver.

Fill it with petrol in a 100,000 bladder (~$12,000) and laugh when the petrol price doubles again...

Let me know where you are getting petrol at that price and I'm in......

$12,000 that's less that the cost of the bladder

Years ago, I was doing reno's on a house in south perth,
They couldnt comply with the new pool fence regs, so converted thier pool to rainwater storage.

The family built a deck over the top of the pool, with a locked inspection hatch at what used to be the shallow end.

They left the bubble blanket floating on the water to slow evaporation and mozzies, with a retic. system hooked up to it for the garden.


stephen

The shire of Wanneroo requires no permit to remove it. It requires an email advising them you removed it with a civil engineer certificate it was filled in and compacted.
Compacting requires 15-30 cm thick layers individually compacted to a certain density.
Then you pay the civil engineer to come and inspect it. They will use some kind of a tool to measure the density and issue the certificate.

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Obelix said...
The shire of Wanneroo requires no permit to remove it. It requires an email advising them you removed it with a civil engineer certificate it was filled in and compacted.
Compacting requires 15-30 cm thick layers individually compacted to a certain density.
Then you pay the civil engineer to come and inspect it. They will use some kind of a tool to measure the density and issue the certificate.

It's called a penatrometer,
It measures compaction, however not to the depth of a pool,
To cover yourself take video footage doing the compaction at the deeper levels, a decent bobcat oppo should have one,
I see builders doing peno tests prior to building but it's only effective to what's on top not beneath( to a certain depth)

Not really the topic here, but how much is a average running cost per year to keep a typical backyard pool?

I know is great for kids etc, but living so close to the ocean it wonders me why people have them rather than going for a swim in the ocean.

On the demo/fill job :

As someone already mentioned, do not lay more than 150mm high loose material prior each compaction layer, otherwise the equipment needed to compact it properly needs to be heavier (and expensive).

That 150mm should compact to 75 or 90mm (depending on what you are using), then you proceed laying the next loose stuff and compact. If you just drop a high layer (anything over 150mm) and compact, only a thin top layer gets compacted with the rest loose under.

In the next rainy period water will percolate though settling the voids and the terrain will subdue.

^^^ my folks have a saltwater pool so the chlorinator uses a bit of power over and above just a pump, but then less chems are needed.
Their power bill seems to be about $150 bigger than ours, but not so much in winter when less running. Thus I reckon about $600 for power, add a few chems, maybe $1000 a year..........?

Very damn rough guesses......

>cost
Electricity - A few $ a day
Salt - -a few $ per month
Shire Pool Inspection - $25 per year
A new salt cell - lasts roughly the warranty period + 7 days - $300 per year
A new control unit (computer) - again, lasts roughly the warranty period + 7 days - $'00s per year
Other stuff that breaks - a few $00 a year.
Time spent in cleaning the pool - priceless

I estimated mine to be a $100 a dip.

It soon became obvious that I couldn't practice gybes in it, so I emptied it.
Too expensive to remove.
Decided to leave its as a project to the next owner , once I sell the house.

So now I pay for the shire pool inspection. They check and express admiration how well my empty pool is fenced and charge me for it.
Have a little frog problems after rains... but that's it.

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Obelix said..

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Have a little frog problems after rains...

Only after it rains ? Is it big frog problems the rest of the time