No civilised human being would ring anyone else after, say 9.00pm (roughly). That is a fairly obvious social norm, unless it is an emergency.

SMS messages usually have some beep, tone, vibration etc associated with receiving them so, likewise, most moderately civilised people would not send one after, say 10.00pm (roughly).

In the days before smartphones, emails could be sent at any hour of the day or night, and no one really cared- they turn up on the computer the next morning.

These days, however, the line between SMS and emails is somewhat blurred. A lot of people seem to receive and respond to emails in the same manner as texts/SMS, and (as a non-smart phone owner) I assume there is some noise associated with an email coming to a smart phone. I often send emails late into the night.

So, is it still socially acceptable to send an email at (for example) 2.00 am, or will this give someone the mega sh**s? Or if someone is too lazy to set the smartphone email system to silent when they go to sleep, is it just their bad luck? Or maybe people leave it on because they are so addicted to their technology, that they will be happy to be woken by incoming emails at 2.00 am.

I can't work this one out, any advice appreciated.

Clarence

Go Scuffy!

My take is email is fine at all hours whether business or personal, if people dont set up their technologies then tough.

Home phone you dont ring after 8.30ish unless they are expecting a call. Mobile a bit later as you can set the ringer etc, same for text. Must emphasise this is for personal calls. Business calls are business hours only unless prior arrangement.

If you know they have babies and toddlers then only email and text as they are either busy, trying to induce sleep or finally have sleep.

^^^ What he said.

That's two agreeings in one day

Sheet, thats almost beers at 20 paces

I find this works any time of the day or night, "hey Siri, turn airplane mode on"

ill shoot you a message when I've thought about it….

OMG!!!!!!
Cant believe you posted this after 9pm!!!!! Show some courtesy. lol

I think it depends on the person. A lot of the people I know work night shift so a call up till 3am is cool,
but calls at 10am, in the middle of OUR night, grrrrr

Does the phone owner need to put it in airplane mode every time they go to sleep and want some peace? Sounds awfully complicated.

Clarence

Turn your phone off at whatever time you don't want to be disturbed. Then in the morning when you switch it on, you'll have messages waiting for you - when you're ready to receive them. Have a good nights sleep without the interruptions.

Yes , pushing 2 buttons to switch airplane mode is complicated
better off pushing lots of buttons typing a post on seabreeze.

Good idea Pitbull, but with phones now replacing wristwatches, cameras, alarm clocks, torches, GPS devices, diaries, calculators, pagers, fax machines, radios, walkmans, girly magazines etc, do people even own bedside alarm clocks anymore.

If you turn the phone off when you hit the fart sack, how will you know when to get up in the morning?

(By the way "fart sack" is a real word in the Oxford Australian dictionary, referring to a bed).

Clarence

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lotofwind said..
OMG!!!!!!
Cant believe you posted this after 9pm!!!!! Show some courtesy. lol

I think it depends on the person. A lot of the people I know work night shift so a call up till 3am is cool,
but calls at 10am, in the middle of OUR night, grrrrr

well no, if they work shifts then that applies to calls, SMS or emails.
Scuff is differentiating between the various formats...

I say email is fine anytime, as it is not designed to be instant like text or call. It is something that is designed to be faster then snail mail of course, but not instant. So emailing at 0400 is fine I reckon.

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Pitbull said..
Turn your phone off at whatever time you don't want to be disturbed. Then in the morning when you switch it on, you'll have messages waiting for you - when you're ready to receive them. Have a good nights sleep without the interruptions.

doesn't work if phone call means an emergency, but text or email is social crap that can be dealt with the next day.

VERY annoying to get text at 11pm asking if u r going to a pissup in two days time, when the sender knows u have the phone next to your head all night as you are on call for real work.

Sounds like its not a phone issue, but you have very inconsiderate friends. Maybe just tell them to never ring you after your 8:30pm bedtime would be the best answer for you??

Or with markies problem, set text to silent, but calls to ring. Easy to do in 5 seconds in the settings. If you cant work it out there are heaps of youtube "how to" vids that will step you through it.

I never understand why people complain about being woken up by their phone when they want to sleep.
It's not hard to put it on silent with no vibration, the alarm still works if you need it.
Such a non issue.

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kiterboy said..
I never understand why people complain about being woken up by their phone when they want to sleep.
It's not hard to put it on silent with no vibration, the alarm still works if you need it.
Such a non issue.

1st world problems.

There is also the do not disturb function on Iphones that I know of. Got sick of bosses Facebook updates all night.

Most home phone have similar.

I'm on 24hr call and leave the phone down the other end of the house.

Crap emails and texts will beep away happily ignored.

But if someone needs to get to me they'll ring, oh how I hate that noise in the wee hours.

iPhones have a do not disturb function, which you can set to kick in automatically between, say 10pm and 7am. You can set it to ring for calls from favorites, or to ring if the same person calls you twice, such as they may do in an emergency.

Easy.

Might be easy for you AUS1111, but what about some technologically challenged person who just bought an iphone.

Do you send them the email at 2.00am or not? I think I really gave someone the sh1ts sending them an email at midnight. How do I know if it is "easy" for them to manage the "do not disturb" function.

In your contacts, do you now need a list of dopey people, who can't manage such settings, just to make sure you don't send them an email that will wake them up. You, for example, could set your phone to receive calls from favourites only at certain times, and only send emails to people in the "dopey" list at certain times.

Clarence

This may be too techy but my new Motorola has very little bloatware but one piece of included software is the Assist. It has 4 categories Sleep Driving Meeting Home. You obviously enter your sleep time and then have the option of allowing .... Say only family members are able to audibly ring you or only someone who calls twice in 3mins. The other setting Driving uses gps and will play music when driving and have the phone read out incoming SMS and phonecalls. IE Sam is calling. Say answer if you wish to speak to Sam. The last setting is meeting which follows your calendar and puts the phone on vibrate for the period allocated. There is also a Home setting which I think takes messages? I dunno tho I haven't used it. Anyway Android and I dare say Apple all have the abilities to stop the phone disturbing you. Its a lot more hassle having inane $hit wake you up than download an app and tick some boxes.

I say you don't have to have loud email elerts or even push notifications. You get SMS and emails all time of night from international/ automatic svcs etc. I regularly send emails at all hpurs and SMS at odd hours if there is a need and it can't wait till morning ( thing is u can always SMS in morning if they don't need message at night) email still best for any time of day.
Most people wouldn't have a loud alert if its going to bother them because you get all sorts of emails at odd times.

P.s. scuffy was my favorite kids book

I don't like middle of the night emails or sms. I tend to unsubscribe from any corporates/lists that send them.

I could easily set various modes/volumes/LED flash controls but I don't.

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AUS1111 said..
iPhones have a do not disturb function, which you can set to kick in automatically between, say 10pm and 7am. You can set it to ring for calls from favorites, or to ring if the same person calls you twice, such as they may do in an emergency.

Easy.

Have found that to not work
My work phone was on the allowed callers list and it didn't work for a couple of people

(IE called them in emergency and their phone didn't ring)

If you got the money for the technology SUFFER. Any time seems ok to call for those selling by phone !

In the days of old, if you didn't want to be disturbed, you would take the phone off the hook. If there was an emergency type call, you would miss it, but the world still spun. Now people need to be contactable 24/7 (I say 'need' rather then 'want' because we can no longer imagine a world with out being contactable).

Clarence, in the case of using your phone as an alarm, most phones (even old non smart phones), the alarm will still work with the phone turned off.

Butback to the question of etiquette.... I had always thought between 8:30pm and 8:00am were no go times for calls. These days SMS maybe a little latter and emails are anytime.

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Mark _australia said..

AUS1111 said..
iPhones have a do not disturb function, which you can set to kick in automatically between, say 10pm and 7am. You can set it to ring for calls from favorites, or to ring if the same person calls you twice, such as they may do in an emergency.

Easy.

Have found that to not work
My work phone was on the allowed callers list and it didn't work for a couple of people

(IE called them in emergency and their phone didn't ring)

which phone are you ringing them on? One of your phones doesn't show your caller ID, this probably interferes with the allowed numbers on the Do Not Disturb feature. Either that or they ignored you

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clarence said..
Good idea Pitbull, but with phones now replacing wristwatches, cameras, alarm clocks, torches, GPS devices, diaries, calculators, pagers, fax machines, radios, walkmans, girly magazines etc, do people even own bedside alarm clocks anymore.

If you turn the phone off when you hit the fart sack, how will you know when to get up in the morning?

(By the way "fart sack" is a real word in the Oxford Australian dictionary, referring to a bed).

Clarence

When my phone is switched off, the alarm will still activate at the set time. Try it with yours from about 5 minutes before you hit the sack and see if it works. If not, then use an alarm clock.

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clarence said...
No civilised human being would ring anyone else after, say 9.00pm (roughly). That is a fairly obvious social norm, unless it is an emergency.

SMS messages usually have some beep, tone, vibration etc associated with receiving them so, likewise, most moderately civilised people would not send one after, say 10.00pm (roughly).

In the days before smartphones, emails could be sent at any hour of the day or night, and no one really cared- they turn up on the computer the next morning.

These days, however, the line between SMS and emails is somewhat blurred. A lot of people seem to receive and respond to emails in the same manner as texts/SMS, and (as a non-smart phone owner) I assume there is some noise associated with an email coming to a smart phone. I often send emails late into the night.

So, is it still socially acceptable to send an email at (for example) 2.00 am, or will this give someone the mega sh**s? Or if someone is too lazy to set the smartphone email system to silent when they go to sleep, is it just their bad luck? Or maybe people leave it on because they are so addicted to their technology, that they will be happy to be woken by incoming emails at 2.00 am.

I can't work this one out, any advice appreciated.

Clarence

Maybe turn phone off when you don't want to be contacted? Problem solved.

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clarence said..
I think I really gave someone the sh1ts sending them an email at midnight.

Buy a bed mate

I called my dad up last Wednesday morning at 3-45 am.

It was important though......

The Man.City v Barcelona match was about to start on SBS.

He thanked me!