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Jfunk said..
How many people should be attacked or killed before anyone is allowed to do anything?

The standard on land I have noticed is any animal that attacks is put down, why are surfers treated differently?

2 surfers killed this week in the Mentawii's. If its about saving lives, should we ban them

I had to go looking for that report. I saw the headline go across the screen on Sunrise and thats all. Why are those guys deaths any less important that a shark attack

www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-03/another-australian-surfer-dies-in-indonesia-police-say/6747634

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jbshack said..

Jfunk said..
How many people should be attacked or killed before anyone is allowed to do anything?

The standard on land I have noticed is any animal that attacks is put down, why are surfers treated differently?

2 surfers killed this week in the Mentawii's. If its about saving lives, should we ban them

I had to go looking for that report. I saw the headline go across the screen on Sunrise and thats all. Why are those guys deaths any less important that a shark attack

www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-03/another-australian-surfer-dies-in-indonesia-police-say/6747634

Thats just terrible logic. But to answer the point, action is taken to prevent reef deaths, helmets were invented for surfing, inflatable vests have been created, rescue craft have been created - all actions designed to prevent such deaths.

For the drunk swimmer, education programs, swimming lessons, life jackets.

Again actions taken to try and prevent such events occuring.

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Dawn Patrol said..
I'm not against them taking out a large shark in the vicinity immediately after an incident. At least that would also put the "rough" shark theory to bed...

Ah, the Canadian Mountie "rough" justice approach. "The Canadian Mountie always gets his man." May not be the right man, doesn't matter.

This may be the completely wrong thing to do. The rogue shark theory has never been validated. The large shark that has taken a bite and spat the foul tasting surfer out will possibly learn from his mistake. Maybe we're better off catching him to tattoo a big "I'm OK now" green thumb on his side. To take it out will just allow another smaller, inexperienced, yet-to-taste-surfer shark take his place. More research needed.

FWIW I'm not for it either. I just can't see it having much of a negative impact and a lot of people will feel like something is being done. To be honest I wouldn't think it would make any difference as I'm not a believer in the whole rouge shark business anyway. Fence sitter in this regard...

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Jfunk said..

jbshack said..

Jfunk said..
How many people should be attacked or killed before anyone is allowed to do anything?

The standard on land I have noticed is any animal that attacks is put down, why are surfers treated differently?

2 surfers killed this week in the Mentawii's. If its about saving lives, should we ban them

I had to go looking for that report. I saw the headline go across the screen on Sunrise and thats all. Why are those guys deaths any less important that a shark attack

www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-03/another-australian-surfer-dies-in-indonesia-police-say/6747634

Thats just fantastic logic. But to answer the point, action is taken to prevent Shark deaths, Devices like surfsafe were invented for surfing, early warning systems like ariel patrols have been created, Surf life saving protocols and first aid training better have been created - all actions designed to prevent such deaths.

For the other surfers , education programs, watching your back and making smart decisions on when to surf.

Again actions taken to try and prevent such events occurring.

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fingerbone said..
Then why cut holes in them?

Who says anyone does

ECO-warriors have vandalised NSW shark nets at least 14 times in the past five years, leaving beaches temporarily unprotected from man-eaters in spring and summer — and in some cases allowing damaged nets to drift kilometres through the ocean. <!-- google_ad_section_end(name=story_introduction) --> <!-- // .story-intro --> <!-- google_ad_section_start(name=story_body, weight=high) --> On a day when a 5m great white was filmed 500m from Long Reef on the northern beaches, The Daily Telegraph uncovered the alarming destruction of nets that is putting swimmers’ lives at risk.The Telegraph can reveal hundreds of potentially deadly sharks have been caught by the state’s $1.4 million-a-year netting program, preventing deaths and injuries along almost 300km of densely populated coastline.In startling new evidence that undermines the Greens’ continuing opposition to netting, it can be revealed at least 222 “target” sharks have been caught in nets since 2008 — including 47 ferocious great whites, five bull sharks and 16 tiger sharks.There have been 110 whaler sharks and at least 17 mako sharks caught, along with other dangerous species including broadnose sevengills and black tips.There have been no fatal shark attacks off the 51 netted beaches between Wollongong and Newcastle for more than 50 years.Just one fatality has been recorded off a netted beach since the program began in 1937.“We know the NSW shark meshing program has been effective in helping to provide a safer environment for bathers for nearly 80 years,” The Daily Telegraph can reveal shark nets have been deliberately damaged at least 14 times since 2010. Vandals have slashed the nets in half or removed anchors, allowing them in some cases to drift away, leaving beaches unprotected for short periods.The most recent case of malicious damage occurred in the height of summer last year when an anchor was cut from a net at Bondi.

jbshack.....in case you missed it....The Daily Telegraph

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fingerbone said..

jbshack said..

fingerbone said..
Then why cut holes in them?

Who says anyone does

ECO-warriors have vandalised NSW shark nets at least 14 times in the past five years, leaving beaches temporarily unprotected from man-eaters in spring and summer — and in some cases allowing damaged nets to drift kilometres through the ocean. <!-- google_ad_section_end(name=story_introduction) --> <!-- // .story-intro --> <!-- google_ad_section_start(name=story_body, weight=high) --> On a day when a 5m great white was filmed 500m from Long Reef on the northern beaches, The Daily Telegraph uncovered the alarming destruction of nets that is putting swimmers’ lives at risk.The Telegraph can reveal hundreds of potentially deadly sharks have been caught by the state’s $1.4 million-a-year netting program, preventing deaths and injuries along almost 300km of densely populated coastline.In startling new evidence that undermines the Greens’ continuing opposition to netting, it can be revealed at least 222 “target” sharks have been caught in nets since 2008 — including 47 ferocious great whites, five bull sharks and 16 tiger sharks.There have been 110 whaler sharks and at least 17 mako sharks caught, along with other dangerous species including broadnose sevengills and black tips.There have been no fatal shark attacks off the 51 netted beaches between Wollongong and Newcastle for more than 50 years.Just one fatality has been recorded off a netted beach since the program began in 1937.“We know the NSW shark meshing program has been effective in helping to provide a safer environment for bathers for nearly 80 years,” Primary Industries Minister Niall Blair
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So what your saying is the nest were damaged 14 times last year. What proof is there on who did it Why couldn't it have just been mother nature of maybe a animal caught in them Have you ever heard of nets getting holes in them

The answer just because it explains your argument is not enough..

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jbshack said..

fingerbone said..

jbshack said..

fingerbone said..
Then why cut holes in them?

Who says anyone does

ECO-warriors have vandalised NSW shark nets at least 14 times in the past five years, leaving beaches temporarily unprotected from man-eaters in spring and summer — and in some cases allowing damaged nets to drift kilometres through the ocean. <!-- google_ad_section_end(name=story_introduction) --> <!-- // .story-intro --> <!-- google_ad_section_start(name=story_body, weight=high) --> On a day when a 5m great white was filmed 500m from Long Reef on the northern beaches, The Daily Telegraph uncovered the alarming destruction of nets that is putting swimmers’ lives at risk.The Telegraph can reveal hundreds of potentially deadly sharks have been caught by the state’s $1.4 million-a-year netting program, preventing deaths and injuries along almost 300km of densely populated coastline.In startling new evidence that undermines the Greens’ continuing opposition to netting, it can be revealed at least 222 “target” sharks have been caught in nets since 2008 — including 47 ferocious great whites, five bull sharks and 16 tiger sharks.There have been 110 whaler sharks and at least 17 mako sharks caught, along with other dangerous species including broadnose sevengills and black tips.There have been no fatal shark attacks off the 51 netted beaches between Wollongong and Newcastle for more than 50 years.Just one fatality has been recorded off a netted beach since the program began in 1937.“We know the NSW shark meshing program has been effective in helping to provide a safer environment for bathers for nearly 80 years,” Primary Industries Minister Niall Blair
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<div class="mceContentBody "><!-- // .image-frame --> A video still of the great white shark filmed 500 metres off Long Reef Beach / Picture: Cameron Sutherland Source: Supplied <!-- // .caption -->

So what your saying is the nest were damaged 14 times last year. What proof is there on who did it Why couldn't it have just been mother nature of maybe a animal caught in them Have you ever heard of nets getting holes in them

The answer just because it explains your argument is not enough..

Yea silly of me .....of coarse it was all mother nature....maybe aliens....maybe dolphins with bolt cutters.