Thought I'd share this with ya!




I'm digging a hole to bury this guy who is selling cheap jewellery to suckers like Me!
Yeah I know one born everyday, but I read Topaz and Art deco and believe it.
Well as most of you know a sellers rating is important and iv only once given a bad feedback.
The girl had a good excuse for not sending my DVDs and I happily reply no worries, then a week goes by again she made excuses!
Well after some thought I gave a negative feed back score and a reason, well because she was a business online.
Well eBay shot her rating to pieces and I guessed they read all the emails between us and saw what had happened and ruled hard
Against her.
On appeal I took back the bad rating thinking she had learnt her lesson and most of us deserve a second chance.

This guy won't be so lucky...

Please give us your story too.

A lot of businesses on ebay seem to use the threat 'we will leave positive feedback for you after you leave us positive feedback'. I think this is bad, because you have paid, so your part of the transaction is positive.

I usually don't bother giving feedback much these days, but I will give bad feedback after I have had bad service, even if they want to give me bad feedback in return. Its what the feedback is for, and I don't think anyone deserves to have it changed unless the problem was out of their control. If its bad service, the feedback should stick.

I bought a wall-sander from some company that said it was based in Sydney and the item would be posted in a few days. It took about 3 weeks to arrive, and it wasn't from Sydney. So I left bad feedback. I got a lot of emails asking if I could remove it, and they offered free stuff. I would rather have them pick up their game, so I left the bad feedback.

I think the important thing with feedback if to be concise so that other buyers can understand what went wrong and it gives them enough of a warning.

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FormulaNova said...
even if they want to give me bad feedback

Sellers can no longer give buyers negative feedback. At least not on the Australian eBay site.

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Toph said...

FormulaNova said...
even if they want to give me bad feedback

Sellers can no longer give buyers negative feedback. At least not on the Australian eBay site.

Wow, I did not know this. I wonder why, although if you use paypal, payment is assured (sort of) so there's not much else for the buyer to do.

I've been annoyed ever since they took away the ability to see who is bidding against you and what else they have bid on. I am sure there must still be a certain amount of shill bidding going on, but how do you tell?

I know that there programs to do it for you, but I always bid in the last 5 seconds if I really want something, and always go in as high as you're prepared to pay. I missed an anchor winch trying to be a cheap skate, it was $3500 retail and a guy had one up for auction new that he didn't fit the bid was at $1300 and in the last 5 sec I put in a bid of $1600 thinking I'd snatch it.

It went for $1900 .......... I happily would have paid $2800, guessing no warranty would deserve a $700 discount.

Moral of the story I should have bid $2800 and MAYBE got for $1950 === super happy

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FormulaNova said...

Toph said...

FormulaNova said...
even if they want to give me bad feedback

Sellers can no longer give buyers negative feedback. At least not on the Australian eBay site.

Wow, I did not know this. I wonder why, although if you use paypal, payment is assured (sort of) so there's not much else for the buyer to do.

I've been annoyed ever since they took away the ability to see who is bidding against you and what else they have bid on. I am sure there must still be a certain amount of shill bidding going on, but how do you tell?

I guess when second chance comes your way you know you've been run up! Iv had three this week, two in China . But the one in Sydney turned out great in the fact the item is worth a lot to me and I should of bidded higher on it first time.

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Dezman said...

FormulaNova said...

Toph said...

FormulaNova said...
even if they want to give me bad feedback

Sellers can no longer give buyers negative feedback. At least not on the Australian eBay site.

Wow, I did not know this. I wonder why, although if you use paypal, payment is assured (sort of) so there's not much else for the buyer to do.

I've been annoyed ever since they took away the ability to see who is bidding against you and what else they have bid on. I am sure there must still be a certain amount of shill bidding going on, but how do you tell?

I guess when second chance comes your way you know you've been run up! Iv had three this week, two in China . But the one in Sydney turned out great in the fact the item is worth a lot to me and I should of bidded higher on it first time.

Yeah, it's sort of funny when you get the second chance offer within a minute of the auction closing.

It's also annoying that they 'offer' you the price the winning bidder paid, and not the the highest amount that you bid, which is all you really wanted to pay. I refuse these on principle.

Just got this message from the guy.

My reply.




As he has form on this issue it's going to be interesting what comes of it!
I shall do the neg feedback and will post the results when I hear back from eBay and Daniel.

mate your not alone.
I'm never buying off ebay again.
phone dealer I'm having issues with and after 3 weeks emailing back n forth they agree the phone is busted after 1 week and a refund, not repair will be issued. only after accc was brought in.
they have a good bit of clout bless 'em.

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FormulaNova said...

Dezman said...

FormulaNova said...

Toph said...

FormulaNova said...
even if they want to give me bad feedback

Sellers can no longer give buyers negative feedback. At least not on the Australian eBay site.

Wow, I did not know this. I wonder why, although if you use paypal, payment is assured (sort of) so there's not much else for the buyer to do.

I've been annoyed ever since they took away the ability to see who is bidding against you and what else they have bid on. I am sure there must still be a certain amount of shill bidding going on, but how do you tell?

I guess when second chance comes your way you know you've been run up! Iv had three this week, two in China . But the one in Sydney turned out great in the fact the item is worth a lot to me and I should of bidded higher on it first time.

Yeah, it's sort of funny when you get the second chance offer within a minute of the auction closing.

It's also annoying that they 'offer' you the price the winning bidder paid, and not the the highest amount that you bid, which is all you really wanted to pay. I refuse these on principle.

Iv only been offered my highest bid, I guess they got a mate to drop a high bid in and see how far you were willing to go.
Even though iv only been using eBay a short time, iv found most people really good and the two car parts I ordered were fast and cheap from businesses.

Part of the problem is eBay's dumb feedback system
There is 5 stars (or is is 4?) but anything other than 100% (ALL stars) is viewed by ebay as a fail and the seller is penalised.
Kicked off the site for a 3 star transaction even if they have done 100 5 star ratings. The d1ckheads at eBay seem to not understand it is a sliding scale.

If it was executed properly there would be ratings where average is 3 stars, 4 is pretty damn good and 5 is exceptional.

But because you know the guy will really cop it for a 4 star rating, everyone gets 5 stars even if it was a bit mediocre.
As we believe in humankind and want to be nice, we are less inclined to rate the guy badly and just wear it. (Unless it is a blatant ripoff)

I now email the seller with a tech question on every item and if they (1) don't know or (2) have poor english I won't buy it.

"We not know technilac specificaton you as for it is sae as from wharehouse" (that's a quote) nup - jam it buddy.

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Mark _australia said...

I now email the seller with a tech question on every item and if they (1) don't know or (2) have poor english I won't buy it.

Wow, you have that option? If I took that stance, I'd be buying nothing from ebay. Crap English is par for the course and that's if they live here. I think you get better English from the sellers in China.

At least for the junk that I buy, ebay seems to have changed to a site to buy cheap new stuff from China rather than second hand stuff from everywhere else.

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Mark _australia said...
Part of the problem is eBay's dumb feedback system
There is 5 stars (or is is 4?) but anything other than 100% (ALL stars) is viewed by ebay as a fail and the seller is penalised.
Kicked off the site for a 3 star transaction even if they have done 100 5 star ratings. The d1ckheads at eBay seem to not understand it is a sliding scale.

If it was executed properly there would be ratings where average is 3 stars, 4 is pretty damn good and 5 is exceptional.

But because you know the guy will really cop it for a 4 star rating, everyone gets 5 stars even if it was a bit mediocre.
As we believe in humankind and want to be nice, we are less inclined to rate the guy badly and just wear it. (Unless it is a blatant ripoff)

I now email the seller with a tech question on every item and if they (1) don't know or (2) have poor english I won't buy it.

"We not know technilac specificaton you as for it is sae as from wharehouse" (that's a quote) nup - jam it buddy.

Agreed, a siding scale makes sense and I went with this guy having a top rating and did't look at his feedback!
I think you can redeem your score after three months.
Oh, he has mentioned that 99% of his customers are happy with no complaint, but hey is it only 1 in a100 who complain?

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saltiest1 said...
mate your not alone.
I'm never buying off ebay again.
phone dealer I'm having issues with and after 3 weeks emailing back n forth they agree the phone is busted after 1 week and a refund, not repair will be issued. only after accc was brought in.
they have a good bit of clout bless 'em.

I'm surprised for most are keen to keep their rating, eBay is the way to buy some things for sure.
Iv been buying furniture off eBay and it's been ok! Mainly because it's hard for people to move it and see eBay as a last resort.
But really most of the time they get a fair price, iv got a $410 bid on a leather lounge which I will be increasing hoping to win.
Not bad for off loading furniture and better than a garage sake which I get it much cheaper without the competition.
But iv found any negative comment on the item and its lucky to sell!

I'm still digging his grave.

Bought some 'genuine' branded razor blades from ebay. After first use
obviously not genuine so instantly gave the seller negative feedback
and started a claim through paypal. Was offered a full refund in return
for changing the negative to positive feedback. I declined to do so, happy to
leave it for paypal to sort out, i probably won't get anything but happy to let
other buyers know what they are getting.