Hypotetically only, because it is not likely going to happen very soon, here in Australia.But in China you could already buy this little wonder at $4200.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuling_Hongguang_Mini_EV
at the cost less then some of electric bicycles here, or two smar phones.
My smallest Honda scooter costs more then that.

Then to fill this battery for daily communing of 120 km or 240km both ways after recharging at work it may cost you nothing till the end of life.

No.

A quick question macro, why do you keep posting promotional material for chinese products/positions here??

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UncleBob said..
A quick question macro, why do you keep posting promotional material for chinese products/positions here??

I agree. Try your best not to buy anything Chinese

imagine the front end of a bus going doggy style with that thing, would'nt want to be the condom

Does it come in mens?

No!! It is a con job. With that amount of money I would buy 20 ounces of gold.

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Kamikuza said..
No.

No coal No car

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cisco said..
No!! It is a con job. With that amount of money I would buy 20 ounces of gold.

Where can you buy gold for $215/oz?

That looks like a great car for a city living kiter. With the rear seat folded down it would fit board and a couple of kites.
Really, it's a Smart car for 2 switched over to electric.

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oz surf said..

UncleBob said..
A quick question macro, why do you keep posting promotional material for chinese products/positions here??

I agree. Try your best not to buy anything Chinese

That's what was said when cars first started coming out of Japan. Then of Korea, then of Thailand. The top selling Hilux comes from Thailand. In 10 yrs time half of you naysayers will be driving cars manufactured in China.

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Ian K said..

oz surf said..

UncleBob said..
A quick question macro, why do you keep posting promotional material for chinese products/positions here??

I agree. Try your best not to buy anything Chinese

That's what was said when cars first started coming out of Japan. Then of Korea, then of Thailand. The top selling Hilux comes from Thailand. In 10 yrs time half of you naysayers will be driving cars manufactured in China.

The first thing that strike me, is that car is simply too good looking to be completely Chinese. That is possibly input of General Motors designers and part owners of production lines.
Obviously conspiracy theorist instantly will come with suggestion that is US conspiracy to invent slim car for Chinese only to diminish their population quickly.You may be right that in few years from now, general opinion will change dramatically and people on masse will switch fron driving trucks and lorries to convenient light weight vehicles.
It make perfect sense to build today cars ~500kg instead of 2,000 kg.Nobody today want to sail big boards 3.5 meters long ( kiters, windsurfers and surfers including) and smaller, lighter mean usually better. In few years we all will have self driving , autonomous cars that do not not crash one into another without any reason.Small cars could be made as safe as big one. I am trying to envision how we could carry windsurfing board on roof rack, but the other option could be switching ot wing foiling for others.

It's probably got the automotive safety standards of a potato.

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Chris6791 said..
It's probably got the automotive safety standards of a potato.

Lets compare safety to bicycle running at our road, completely not designed to accommodate bikers.Even the best brand motorcycle. Beside lets imagine city streets mostly occupied by similar micro vehicles traveling at average speeds 40 km/ h.
That is less then average wind sailor experience everyday while standing on tiny piece of plastic, or biker pushing a bit harder.Most city dwellers in china travel 6 km to work.I bet that very soon similar micro vehicles will be build by Apple and Google, maybe even given for free while you buy new iPhone.

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Kamikuza said..
No.

totally understand.small guy need big car...small d..k need even bigger car to impress...






the problem with very smallest is that sometimes may cost twice as much as bigger. That is completely another illustration that price is dictated mostly by effectiveness of the production system , not quality of the product.

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Mr Milk said..
Where can you buy gold for $215/oz?

Do your figures again. $56,000/ $2560 per ounce = 21.875 ounces.

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cisco said..

Mr Milk said..
Where can you buy gold for $215/oz?

Do your figures again. $56,000/ $2560 per ounce = 21.875 ounces.

So you think I need a fleet of the $4 300 cars? What am I going to do with them? Rent them out to kiters?

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Mr Milk said..
Where can you buy gold for $215/oz?

Do your figures again. $56,000/ $2560 per ounce = 21.875 ounces.

Ah, the question was, would you buy this car for $5600.00 AUD so you gold purchase would be 2.1875 ounces.

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oz surf said..

UncleBob said..
A quick question macro, why do you keep posting promotional material for chinese products/positions here??

I agree. Try your best not to buy anything Chinese

That's what was said when cars first started coming out of Japan. Then of Korea, then of Thailand. The top selling Hilux comes from Thailand. In 10 yrs time half of you naysayers will be driving cars manufactured in China.

Hi, you may have misconstrued my question as being anti chinese, which it wasn't, I asked Macro why he keeps posting promotional material for chinese product and political positions here on an australian watersports site. He has on occasion mimicked the Chinese ambassador's "advice" to submit to the chinese govt's wishes.
As has happened here and in previous threads a simple no as a response has elicited a disparaging rant belittling the poster.

It looks as safe as Bitcoin.

The question is if more expensive means always better?
More expensive = better?
The answer may come from rocket science.
SpaceX is building rockets at 70 mln a piece, and SLS still trying to build one at 1 bln and can't finish with constant delay and cost overruns.
SpaceX rocket then will be reused 10x , 100x even in the future , since SLS is single use, disposable. Now we could reverse question and ask if you rather prefer to fly on cheaper rocket into space, that already made hundreds successful launches and landing or rather stick with more expensive one off knock off, never tested in real life with ground staff learning the process with you,
everydayastronaut.com/sls-vs-starship/





what is even more suprising - SpaceX is now more concern about effectivness of their rocket production system, then pure estethics .Their most recent monster rocket is made of stainless steel, not even painted. Some say even, looks a bit ugly, but who cares if can fly higher, faster and cheaper then everything else. Their function is fulfilled perfectly, safety ensured but estethics valour comes only as second.

similar tend could made path to automobile industry.

Tesla Cybertrack is made of unpainted stainless steel too, considered by some ugly, but quee of excited buyers already waiting for product.

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bjw said..
It looks as safe as Bitcoin.

you could hardly loose on such investment...

Safety standards and dodgy build quality aside, I think the Aust govt should order a couple of million of them on a credit note and FOB to an Aussie port . Then once they are sitting in ships off shore, deem that they are heavily CCP subsidized and therefore considered dumping. And perhaps the only way they could be bought into the country is by imposing a 250% tariff.
But I recon in about 3 weeks the ships would be floating scrap yards of rust!

If it comes with bi-directional charging then it is cheaper than buying a powerwall2 or similar home battery!

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Macroscien said..

similar tend could made path to automobile industry.

Tesla Cybertrack is made of unpainted stainless steel too, considered by some ugly, but quee of excited buyers already waiting for product.

The Delorian was also made in stainless steel. Seemed like a great idea, until people had to repair them and found that no paint and stainless steel are a pain to repair.

Maybe a stainless steel looking topcoat would be a better idea?

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FormulaNova said..

Macroscien said..

similar tend could made path to automobile industry.

Tesla Cybertrack is made of unpainted stainless steel too, considered by some ugly, but quee of excited buyers already waiting for product.

The Delorian was also made in stainless steel. Seemed like a great idea, until people had to repair them and found that no paint and stainless steel are a pain to repair.

Maybe a stainless steel looking topcoat would be a better idea?

Maybe ugly means now new beauty standard? are we entering Mad Max reality?
Now look carefully how convenient is now boarding the most recent rocket.

Astronauts just carried our on firefighting ladder, no need for costly towers! Yep, it must be obviously cheap Chinese rocket ( or maybe not ?)

Comming back to vehicle safety.
Arent we bit overprotective nation?
Cyclist helments are not required in most Europen countries.
Now the biggest brands of ATV ; Honda, Suzuki , Canmore and few other are withdrawing completely from Australian market their quads.They are unable or unwilling to meet Australian safety criteria.
Since next year roll cage is compulsory on all quads big and small.


we coudl go even further and requst roll cage for all windsurfing boards that will save countless lifes, now lost during catapults.
Starboard , Fanatic and obviously JP have hard nut to crack now.




BTW, Hondas simple quad bike, for single person cost twice as much as Chinese EV for 4, but dont even have tyre pressure sensonrs or aircon and radio.Windsurfing set cost around the same Chinese EV marvel, but our boards are high tech! .Sheet of plastic wrapped around a foam.

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kb53 said..
If it comes with bi-directional charging then it is cheaper than buying a powerwall2 or similar home battery!

You are absolutely right. Power wall cost twice as much, having exactly same size battery pack and nothing eslo, not even wheels.By hanging now Chinese EV on our garage wall, connecting to roof solar panels we could solve our electric grid gridlock, without even need to go on the road. aAternatively we could purchase those vehicles, remove battery and throw the rest on the rubish tip.Battery here cost more then that,
We could also convert remaining vehicle chassis by installing proven engine from ride on mower. Our global specialty could be now buying cheap electric vehicles and converting them into proven combustion fuel capable.
VV - Victa Vehicle !!

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kb53 said..
If it comes with bi-directional charging then it is cheaper than buying a powerwall2 or similar home battery!

You are absolutely right. Power wall cost twice as much, having exactly same size battery pack and nothing eslo, not even wheels.By hanging now Chinese EV on our garage wall, connecting to roof solar panels we could solve our electric grid gridlock, without even need to go on the road. aAternatively we could purchase those vehicles, remove battery and throw the rest on the rubish tip.Battery here cost more then that,
We could also convert remaining vehicle chassis by installing proven engine from ride on mower. Our global specialty could be now buying cheap electric vehicles and converting them into proven combustion fuel capable.
VV - Victa Vehicle !!

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Macroscien said..
BTW, Hondas simple quad bike, for single person cost twice as much as Chinese EV for 4, but dont even have tyre pressure sensonrs or aircon and radio.Windsurfing set cost around the same Chinese EV marvel, but our boards are high tech! .Sheet of plastic wrapped around a foam.

But i know everytime i go to use a honda product it will work and i am paying for quality. Chinese products are notoriously dog sh!t and therefore are cheap.
Just because something is "high-tec" and has more features doesnt mean its better. Sure its nice when it all works but when all these sensors give up the ghost it turns into a royal pain in the arse.

So i will take big brand name with a good reputation (honda, yamaha,etc) which makes a simple but reliable product over some cheaper chinese product that has all the fruit. I think you will find most people will agree with me on this.

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Chris6791 said..
It's probably got the automotive safety standards of a potato.

Lets compare safety to bicycle running at our road, completely not designed to accommodate bikers.Even the best brand motorcycle. Beside lets imagine city streets mostly occupied by similar micro vehicles traveling at average speeds 40 km/ h.
That is less then average wind sailor experience everyday while standing on tiny piece of plastic, or biker pushing a bit harder.Most city dwellers in china travel 6 km to work.I bet that very soon similar micro vehicles will be build by Apple and Google, maybe even given for free while you buy new iPhone.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here?