First heard about him years ago and was quite astounded by his exploits but never really looked into how he did it. My young bloke put me onto a podcast with Russell Brand which I listened to and made up my mind that I'd give it a go.
Been doing his breathing exercises for a couple of weeks along with the cold shower before work. With 4:30 am starts it was a bit daunting at first but flabbergasted that it only took five days to go from bloody foul to invigorating.

Definitely going to stick with it!

My missus tells me to take a cold shower when I'm heavy breathing down her neck with a 4am
Morning glory happening
F######g frustrating

Select to expand quote

cauncy said..
My missus tells me to take a cold shower when I'm heavy breathing down her neck with a 4am
Morning glory happening
F######g frustrating

You should listen to the podcast

Hoff reports very swift recovery rates!

Select to expand quote

japie said..
First heard about him years ago and was quite astounded by his exploits but never really looked into how he did it. My young bloke put me onto a podcast with Russell Brand which I listened to and made up my mind that I'd give it a go.
Been doing his breathing exercises for a couple of weeks along with the cold shower before work. With 4:30 am starts it was a bit daunting at first but flabbergasted that it only took five days to go from bloody foul to invigorating.

Definitely going to stick with it!

Yeh man, for the modern She,He,It,They is almost never outside their comfort zone and never stops for a few minutes of concentrated thought.

Wim is just reminding you that this feels good

Been doing it for 2 years regularly... cold showers, ice baths. It's truly character forming.Definitely stick with it bro it's life changing. Highly recommend one of the weekend retreats too climbing the mountain and stuff... checkout Breathless in Sydney (i'm not affiliated, just had the most incredible life experience doing that stuff with them).

I had a look at it. Not real convenient right now but definitely a consideration for the future.

Been practicing conscientiously first thing every morning for just under three months now and have an interesting observation.I bought the app so I've got a comprehensive record.
My initial attempts at breath retention were pretty sad and I really struggled to go for a minute. I'm now up to an average of 2:15 per session. Not sure how that compares but it's not a competition.

However in August I did an eight day fast and as usual my energy levels shot through the roof. The most notable thing was I was able to retain my breath for a maximum of 3:10 which is a massive improvement on 2:15.

As soon as I began eating again I was back to a 2:15 average.

Has to be oxygen demand by my digestive system. I recorded my weight daily and on day 8 I dropped to 79 kegs. I usually weigh around 85. I put the difference down to food in my guts. Ever since I've been fasting I've noted that bowel movements continue for at least five days after ceasing to eat.

Select to expand quote

japie said..
Ever since I've been fasting I've noted that bowel movements continue for at least five days after ceasing to eat.

How much do you usually eat? Do you normally feel like a stuffed turkey?

Eat a huge amount of fruit but I'd describe my intake as less than average.

When I first started to look into it I read that people are still passing stuff after fifteen days! I've no intention of putting that to the test but it goes to show how long some food takes to go through.

Explains why a lot of public toilets are unusable!

Select to expand quote

japie said..
I had a look at it. Not real convenient right now but definitely a consideration for the future.

Been practicing conscientiously first thing every morning for just under three months now and have an interesting observation.I bought the app so I've got a comprehensive record.
My initial attempts at breath retention were pretty sad and I really struggled to go for a minute. I'm now up to an average of 2:15 per session. Not sure how that compares but it's not a competition.

However in August I did an eight day fast and as usual my energy levels shot through the roof. The most notable thing was I was able to retain my breath for a maximum of 3:10 which is a massive improvement on 2:15.

As soon as I began eating again I was back to a 2:15 average.

Has to be oxygen demand by my digestive system. I recorded my weight daily and on day 8 I dropped to 79 kegs. I usually weigh around 85. I put the difference down to food in my guts. Ever since I've been fasting I've noted that bowel movements continue for at least five days after ceasing to eat.

Awesome bro.The factors I found have huge impact on my breath retention times:- must always practice breathwork on empty stomach
- level of both conscious and subsconscious stress will have huge negative impact on retention. ( I just guided a friend who's been really stressed few days ago, and she couldn't hold more than like 20 seconds - even after fourth set). You really need to learn how to let go. Although sometimes it's circumstantial and hard to fully control
- environment where you practice it makes a diff... quiet relaxing tranquil place will promote relaxaton and improve retention
- overall gut health/fitness level would have impact for sure

But out of everything, two things are the key for me: breathwork on empty stomach, getting into as relaxed mindset as possible.
Not trying to brag, but managed to get up to 3:45 after like fourth/fifth set. But then my retention times dropped a lot. Now i'm back at 2:15 avg same as you. It sort of fluctuates depending an all these factors...

Have you tried doing breathhold pushups? That's the next level stuff... so awesome

Select to expand quote

japie said..

cauncy said..
My missus tells me to take a cold shower when I'm heavy breathing down her neck with a 4am
Morning glory happening
F######g frustrating

You should listen to the podcast

Hoff reports very swift recovery rates!

Got a link dude.? Been doing my own and fasting for some time but ive heard this guy is the real deal.

www.wimhofmethod.com/

This is a good listen providing you can wear Russel Brand

Also came across this which is fascinating

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/

This is amazing, his processes are very aligned with surfing, it answers so many questions that I had.

I read an article on why surfers feel Stoke and no one can truely answer it. Some say adrenaline,.. but in other sports that wears off where as surfing the Stoke stays with you all day etc,.. there no real answer.

It's so similar... Being crazy cold.... Rapid breathing following by apnoea.... I'm definitely going to explore this because if I can achieve a similar state, on command... Wow... I'm excited.

Well, woke this morning, did my breathing (I like that) then jumped in the shower expecting to be impervious to cold,. Didn't work, it was the same as every cold shower I've had in the past.
Im going to stick with it all the same, not touching the hot tap for a month.

Took a couple of weeks to adapt. Still a draw breath in moment for the first few seconds but five minutes no issue now.

Someone remarked on the fact that I wasn't wearing a wet suit on a downwinder the other day.

So many things about this I like.

Speaking about the no wetsuit thing,.. I remember being a young grom and driving to the surf at 5in the morning in winter and my mates old man 10 mins out would give the command to drop all windows,.. that way the water doesn't feel cold,. Made you want to get out and get in.
Not like in recent times,. Heater going, coffee... And I stair at it for an hour and decide against it if it's not perfect... Getting old maybe,.. but I thinks I'll be learning some new lessons that I already knew.

I was brought up on the equator and never liked the cold but I guess it's like most things in that you can condition yourself.

We've become so soft in the western world. And it shows. You've only to look at people around you to realise that many haven't raised a sweat since being a kid.

Ive had this theory for a long time about melanoma. The skin is an organ and it's often referred to as your third kidney because one of its functions is excretion. If it's not utilised as such it's going to get all clogged up. Hence melanoma.

I have similar thoughts on cancer,.. cancer is a cell multiplying for no reason, then keeps going. I feel if you are constantly damaging the body, exercise etc. Then it focuses on repairing that and has a focus. No basis,.. just my thoughts.
However it does explain why old mate tradie who lives on **** food, in the elements has lower rates of cancer apposed to an full time office worker..... Stress plays a big part too I thinks

Heat like cold seems to have it's own beneficial properties. Have a listen to Laird Hamilton talk about the extreme heat he puts himself through. Says he can put himself through extended times at 200 degrees fahrenheit (just over 90 degrees celcius).

Yes, all this bad living the modern life causes means we live shorter lives. Not

I remember when I was a teenager, my father saying, "Who would want to live past 70?" An odd thing to say I thought, but I guess he was judging by the 70 year olds he saw when he was a kid. My answer was, "Ask someone who's 69". Anyway, he's 86 now and still swims a mile a day, drives 12 hours to visit my siblings up north, and loves his chainsaw. I'm under strict orders to never let him get put in a home no matter what. He'd rather die falling off his 22 ft ladder while painting the 2nd storey eaves (I can't stop him from doing it) than waste away surrounded by the smell of disinfectant.

Select to expand quote

Harrow said..
I remember when I was a teenager, my father saying, "Who would want to live past 70?" An odd thing to say I thought, but I guess he was judging by the 70 year olds he saw when he was a kid. My answer was, "Ask someone who's 69". Anyway, he's 86 now and still swims a mile a day, drives 12 hours to visit my siblings up north, and loves his chainsaw. I'm under strict orders to never let him get put in a home no matter what. He'd rather die falling off his 22 ft ladder while painting the 2nd storey eaves (I can't stop him from doing it) than waste away surrounded by the smell of disinfectant.

Our richest man on the planet decided now to spend his whole fortune to find immortality .
For himself in the first place, with the ambition to become the longest living human in history.
That reminds me a bit of naive attempts to do the same by Michael Jackson ( spending nights in oxygen hyperbaric chambers).
But this time Jeff Bozos may have better advisors and serious funding as a backup.

That will be quite an interesting exercise to find out what is the real max life expectancy for humans in the distant future?
What is your best guess?
Close to 200???? is it possible?

My personal idea is at this moment completely impossible to realize: but In short, I suggest complete removal of all biological
life elements like bacteria and viruses from the human environment.
This means that people need to live in a completely sterile environment: possible to realize at space colony or another planet's colony.
Then also a bit of tweaking with the human genome: like a good breeder do with their animals by proper selection.Incremental removing or deactivating of harmful human genes from our DNA.This means that Human AD 3000 may not be a complete copy of Human AD 2000, but a completely new race again.And will look at us with disgust like we do watching Neandertals.

You are forgetting the AI machine man symbiote, this will return a natural Homo sapiens life span to zero eventually.

Select to expand quote

eppo said..
You are forgetting the AI machine man symbiote, this will return a natural Homo sapiens life span to zero eventually.

You may be right.
But in a worst-case scenario, AI could keep us people as pets.
You try to keep your pets in good shape.
So they will feed us good healthy food, exact calories amount, to avoid obesity, something like 1500 per day per person should be enough. Provide plenty of exercises. Take away drugs, alcohol, and tobacco.
Get to Vet regularly, vaccinate and microchip too.
Animals in the ZOO live much longer than In a natural environment.
People/humans as pets could enjoy 200 years in captivity if taken care of seriously by AI.

PS. Best of all, AI doesn't need to eat us.
According to some conspiracy theorists, it could be the case already and all our spontaneous life is already the subject of somebody else entertainment. An alien civilization that already observer every individual, can affect everything around.You, me could be a pet in an alien petri dish already, so advice for all of us could be: behave because everything you do is already watched carefully.
In such a scenario people/humans are unlikely to develop independent AI , because such could at the end endanger the life of our pet holders too.
If you continue the thought, we could ask if Humans pets owner by definition must be smarter then humans itself? Can pet suddenly become smarter then owner?

Select to expand quote

Gazuki said..
This is amazing, his processes are very aligned with surfing, it answers so many questions that I had.

I read an article on why surfers feel Stoke and no one can truely answer it. Some say adrenaline,.. but in other sports that wears off where as surfing the Stoke stays with you all day etc,.. there no real answer.

It's so similar... Being crazy cold.... Rapid breathing following by apnoea.... I'm definitely going to explore this because if I can achieve a similar state, on command... Wow... I'm excited.

Sure, but then there are all those times when your ears hurt and you can't feel your fingers nor toes, and your thinking goes a bit fuzzy, and you can't move your jaw properly nor talk properly...

... being cold for long periods of time can suck. D'uh.

Give me warm, tropical water any day.