The Japanese come to conclusus that the best way to deal with massive amount of radioactive water from Fu**ma disaster release into ocen
.I have other idea: Lets electrolyze this water in order to split into Hydrogen and Oxygen,
Those element will be now much easier to separate from radioactive contaminants.
Whole process could be done using green energy from Wind Turbines and Solar.Leftover solid nuclear waste could be then measured in few tonnes, easy to deal with .

edition.cnn.com/2020/10/24/asia/japan-****ushima-waste-ocean-intl-scli/index.html

Then take the hydrogen and split it into H+ atoms, then split those again and boom... endless energy!

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CH3MTR4IL5 said..
Then take the hydrogen and split it into H+ atoms, then split those again and boom... endless energy!

good idea , with such difference only that to make a good boom you need to fuse those H atoms not split. then we may have endless supply for fill our party balloons with cheap helium ( or even airships) .

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Macroscien said..
The Japanese come to conclusus....

A 'conclusus' sounds more like something Confucius would arrive at. But he was Chinese not Japanese.

"The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat."
- Confucius

Obviously Confucius never looked for a white rabbit in a snowstorm, when there was no rabbit.

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Carantoc said..

Macroscien said..
The Japanese come to conclusus....

A 'conclusus' sounds more like something Confucius would arrive at. But he was Chinese not Japanese.

"The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat."
- Confucius

Obviously Confucius never looked for a white rabbit in a snowstorm, when there was no rabbit.

yep, it looks like Confucius was well ahead of Schrodinger.

the difference is that Chinese will eat both cat and rabbit ( what explain absence of those in example above) , since japaneses prefer our wales and dolphins.

You know, an interesting thing about Japan is that the mighty and humble king of Wessex, Alfred the Great (849-899) is suspected of not ever having travelled there. Some historians point to the fact that nobody has sighted a Japanese visa in his passport as decisive evidence that he never made the journey.


October 26th - be merry all ye, for 'tis the feast of Saint Alfred the Great.

head the heading and thought wash it

If you have radioactive water, and split it, you get an isotope of hydrogen (deuterium or tritium) so you're not really solving anything....?

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""The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat.""

Nah, it just means you're a bloody idiot who;
a. Knows there is no cat but continues looking.
b. Is not smart enough to operate a light switch.
c. Has no inkling about the degree of difficulty involved in billions of harder things, eg. is this hunting for a non existent cat harder than counting every hair follicle on every human, or grains of salt on the planet? I think not.

Intelligence is not an acceptable substitute for common sense.

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Nah, it just means you're a bloody idiot who;
a. Knows there is no cat but continues looking.
b. Is not smart enough to operate a light switch.
c. Has no inkling about the degree of difficulty involved in billions of harder things, eg. is this hunting for a non existent cat harder than counting every hair follicle on every human, or grains of salt on the planet? I think not.

Intelligence is not an acceptable substitute for common sense.

The thing about common sense is that it is not very common.

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Rupert said..

""The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat.""

Nah, it just means you're a bloody idiot who;
a. Knows there is no cat but continues looking.
b. Is not smart enough to operate a light switch.
c. Has no inkling about the degree of difficulty involved in billions of harder things, eg. is this hunting for a non existent cat harder than counting every hair follicle on every human, or grains of salt on the planet? I think not.

Intelligence is not an acceptable substitute for common sense.

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Macroscien said..

Carantoc said..

Macroscien said..
The Japanese come to conclusus....

A 'conclusus' sounds more like something Confucius would arrive at. But he was Chinese not Japanese.

"The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat."
- Confucius

Obviously Confucius never looked for a white rabbit in a snowstorm, when there was no rabbit.

yep, it looks like Confucius was well ahead of Schrodinger.

the difference is that Chinese will eat both cat and rabbit ( what explain absence of those in example above) , since japaneses prefer our wales and dolphins.

Our whales and dolphins?

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Mark _australia said..
If you have radioactive water, and split it, you get an isotope of hydrogen (deuterium or tritium) so you're not really solving anything....?

You are right about Tritium.

I am afraid that main risk is from dissolved in water contaminants like radioactive carbon 14 , cesium, and other heavier isotopes. Deuterium and tritium are very valuable resources, definitely worth to capture if you can. The point is that money spend on electrolysers , of panels and turbines are well spend and infrastructure may work later producing clean hydrogen. My concept of dealing with radioactive water is not proven yet, just a proposal worth testing.To separate dissolved substances from water, you may use evaporation. But detailing millions of tones of water will not be cheap, water may be useless, still containing radioactive ingredients. Splitting may be more cost effective with hydrogen used then to manufacture iron from ore.
inis.iaea.org/search/search.aspx?orig_q=RN:33028409

www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/10/japan-plans-to-dump-radioactive-water-into-the-pacific-but-australia-also-has-nuclear-waste-issues/

Such a beat up. The water has been decontaminated as a much as feasible.

The ocean is already full of naturally occuring Tritium. Releasing a small amount back into it is like putting salty water back in the ocean. it occurs naturally and is part of the eaths background raditiation we all hapilly live in, and actually need to survive.

The releases they are planning are already approved under thier facility operational waste management plans and do not exceed the levels they would have released if the plant was operating. Nuclear power plants all over the world do this all the time, every day.

The only reason they are holding off is because of public opinion whipped into a frenzy because of percieved risk. Alarmists at it again.

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Paradox said..
Such a beat up. The water has been decontaminated as a much as feasible.

The ocean is already full of naturally occuring Tritium. Releasing a small amount back into it is like putting salty water back in the ocean. it occurs naturally and is part of the eaths background raditiation we all hapilly live in, and actually need to survive.

The releases they are planning are already approved under thier facility operational waste management plans and do not exceed the levels they would have released if the plant was operating. Nuclear power plants all over the world do this all the time, every day.

The only reason they are holding off is because of public opinion whipped into a frenzy because of percieved risk. Alarmists at it again.

Another tritium apologist paid off by Big Water