Doesn't help when Russia is the president of the Security Council in the UN.

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shi thouse said..
Doesn't help when Russia is the president of the Security Council in the UN.

Time for a re-vamp of the UN.

Guys guys guys...do you need constant reminding?

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It's an escape from political issues, religious wars, corporate/medical theories, conspiracies, vaccine opinions etc.

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We opened "General Discussion" as a water cooler kind of area.

There are a squillion sites that invite your commentary on covid, vaccines, the prime minister, big Pharma - perhaps that is the place to go and discuss that stuff?

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Kitekids back from his suspension, and now he's a moderator

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kiterboy said..
Guys guys guys...do you need constant reminding?

What's your favourite Tom Hanks movie?

I think most movies would be better if he was in it.

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shi thouse said..
Doesn't help when Russia is the president of the Security Council in the UN.

What does Russia want exactly? I haven't paid enough attention. I doubt they want to gain territory.

Is it just to remove the conflict that they have had for years with Ukraine?

*Oh yeah, has anyone bought a new kite this year.

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FormulaNova said..

shi thouse said..
Doesn't help when Russia is the president of the Security Council in the UN.

What does Russia want exactly? I haven't paid enough attention. I doubt they want to gain territory.

Is it just to remove the conflict that they have had for years with Ukraine?

*Oh yeah, has anyone bought a new kite this year.

It is about territory, Putin thinks Ukraine is 'Russian'
Going surfing down south next week....

^^^ cos Ukraine was going to join NATO.
Secondary - control of the pipeline, historic hatred, we won it anyway kinda crap.

Lets hope when NATO weighs in, the China or NK doesn't see opportunity

Russia originally planned to invade WA,
but the border was closed and they didnt want to wear masks and isolate for 2 weeks on arrival.

I got this off facebook, so you may need to fact check it, but you get the idea:


Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores; 2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves; 2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves); 2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons); 2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves; 3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters) 4th in the world by the total value of natural resources; 7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area; 3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume); 1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil; 2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports; 3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world; 4th largest producer of potatoes in the world; 5th largest rye producer in the world; 5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons); 8th place in the world in wheat exports; 9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs; 16th place in the world in cheese exports. Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

Ukraine is an important industrialised country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;Europe's 2nd's and the world's 4th largest natural gas pipeline system; 3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants; 3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km); 3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment; 3rd largest iron exporter in the world 4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world; 4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers; 4th place in the world in clay exports 4th place in the world in titanium exports 8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates; 9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products; 10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

Okay, so Ukraine has a lot of resources.

Was it/is it a stable country politically?

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Poida said..
I got this off facebook, so you may need to fact check it, but you get the idea:


Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores; 2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves; 2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves); 2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons); 2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves; 3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters) 4th in the world by the total value of natural resources; 7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area; 3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume); 1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil; 2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports; 3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world; 4th largest producer of potatoes in the world; 5th largest rye producer in the world; 5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons); 8th place in the world in wheat exports; 9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs; 16th place in the world in cheese exports. Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

Ukraine is an important industrialised country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;Europe's 2nd's and the world's 4th largest natural gas pipeline system; 3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants; 3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km); 3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment; 3rd largest iron exporter in the world 4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world; 4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers; 4th place in the world in clay exports 4th place in the world in titanium exports 8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates; 9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products; 10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

so I Googled that :
"What is the poorest country in Europe?"

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kiterboy said..
Guys guys guys...do you need constant reminding?

What's your favourite Tom Hanks movie?

I think most movies would be better if he was in it.

I'm reserving my judgement until the movie about this war, starring Tom Hanks, is made.

Will this turn out to be like that time the media told us Russia was invading Georgia but the truth was Georgia turned on their own citizens in South assetia for wanting to join Russia.
Every time Ukraine wants to start a ****fight they just turn the gas off or at least threaten to do so. Instinctively I imagine Ukraine has cast the first stone but with Australia's retarded political ties the truth will meander a long road before it gets to us.

As a broad rule of thumb, countries that are ruled by one man, for decades, are not your friend.

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Poida said..
I got this off facebook, so you may need to fact check it, but you get the idea:


Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores; 2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves; 2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves); 2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons); 2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves; 3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters) 4th in the world by the total value of natural resources; 7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area; 3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume); 1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil; 2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports; 3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world; 4th largest producer of potatoes in the world; 5th largest rye producer in the world; 5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons); 8th place in the world in wheat exports; 9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs; 16th place in the world in cheese exports. Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

Ukraine is an important industrialised country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;Europe's 2nd's and the world's 4th largest natural gas pipeline system; 3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants; 3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km); 3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment; 3rd largest iron exporter in the world 4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world; 4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers; 4th place in the world in clay exports 4th place in the world in titanium exports 8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates; 9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products; 10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

so I Googled that :
"What is the poorest country in Europe?"

maybe just a lot of potential? and money leaves the country.

I was interested in the following:
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers; .....9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
might help them to keep some of this gear.

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FormulaNova said..
Okay, so Ukraine has a lot of resources.

Was it/is it a stable country politically?

Don't mention the P word... shhhh...

With the resources, history and location, the region has always been volatile and somewhat in dispute. Might always be that way unfortunately, maybe summed up saying the big boys of East & West have always liked to have controlling interests that aren't necessarily aligned with the local, traditional populations.

As tough as life has been in the EU over the last few years, I doubt the nations of Europe have any desire to return to post WW2 politics & economies. This land grab by Putin has most likely been timed while his perceived foe in the west is weakened, politicly and financially tired from the drain of the pandemic; look at the current pressure many of leaders and their budgets are under in the region. Putin has made it clear he wishes to see a return to policies of past regimes (Tsars, USSR, Bla, Bla, Bla), I'd imagine as far as he's concerned, a return to cold war footings is a good thing for an expansionist Mother Russia. However the main players in NATO are likely to escalate their actions quicker than history suggests as this is on their back door as opposed to deepest Africa. Add to this WW2 is a recent history and not taken lightly.

Also read up on the winter war, I've found it informing to compare the real-time with what happened between Finland & the USSR last century. Plenty of temporal Deja vu with the current situation and general propaganda being thrown around by both sides.

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Poida said..
Ukraine ranks: 1st in Europe

I think that might be the crux of the issue.

Some people wouldn't say Ukraine is in Europe.


I think it is a bit like when you grab the dogs tail and smack the cat the in the face, thinking the cat will scratch the dog and you can smirk about the cat and dog not liking each other while you feign all innocence.

You pretend to think the cat thinks the dog did it. But the cat knows and the dog knows and you know it wasn't the dog that did it.


Except in this case the cat is a bear. And bears don't lose interest in who hit them in face as easy as cats.

Just hope the person flicking the dogs tail had plan when the bear smacks back. But somehow I doubt it.

Russia said the want to free Ukraine from the current Nazi leadership......

So does that make them the good guys?

Simple fix
Put a very large price on his execution or capture
In the 100s of millions, a syndicate will take the offer
His entourage will be soon feeling the pinch from freezing of overseas accounts and assets

Are there any Russians in space ? Perhaps leave them up there exchange for a ceasefire! ??

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cauncy said..
Simple fix
Put a very large price on his execution or capture
In the 100s of millions, a syndicate will take the offer
His entourage will be soon feeling the pinch from freezing of overseas accounts and assets

Yes the sanctions are designed to upset and anger old mates oligarch mates .

The worrying part is what psyco will then have control of the big red button when putin is gonski

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psychojoe said..
Will this turn out to be like that time the media told us Russia was invading Georgia but the truth was Georgia turned on their own citizens in South assetia for wanting to join Russia.
Every time Ukraine wants to start a ****fight they just turn the gas off or at least threaten to do so. Instinctively I imagine Ukraine has cast the first stone but with Australia's retarded political ties the truth will meander a long road before it gets to us.

You need to get out of the youtube/telegram/covid rabbit hole

All those Russians protesting against the war are far from the gronks you celebrate waving trump flags in Canberra...

the only thing retarded is your thought process ,let us think ,maybe the Ukraine threatened the gas to keep old nut bag at arms length from doing what he is doing now...you know,so putin could keep those billions coming in ...but I know ,your rabbit hole of information has told you something different lol

The mainstream media is not as dangerous as the rot you are being brainwashed with

I do love when when someone says I imagine as if it is fact though lol

Where is the doctor with a meme

Worth a read if you can be bothered with 280 pages of fairly dense text is

The Dictators Handbook (Why Bad Behaviour Is Almost Always Good Politics)

Written by a couple of political science academics, it describes how despots AND democratic governments maintain power through fear and favours.

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Mr Milk said..
Worth a read if you can be bothered with 280 pages of fairly dense text is

The Dictators Handbook (Why Bad Behaviour Is Almost Always Good Politics)

Written by a couple of political science academics, it describes how despots AND democratic governments maintain power through fear and favours.

Weird is also something people should look into

Western, educated, industrialized, rich and democratic

First things they took control of where Chernobyl and diamond mines.

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First things they took control of where Chernobyl and diamond mines.

Actually, Chernobyl and the bioweapons facilities the Yanks were running.

They only took chernobyl as the contamination there leads itself to dirty bomb production by a citizen resistance or desperate (losing) military later on. Its a simple tactical move I dunno why the media are making so much of it.

I'm not seeing many of the hairy smelly types from the COVID protests, the whale protests, the forest protests etc ......? Whole bunch of Ukrainian ex-pats protested in australia, a nice mum n dad gathering.
I mean, the cops arrested a bloke in Perth for not wearing a mask at his business and there was 10,000 frothing comments on FB and protests and vitriolic comments abut nazi police etc etc - within hours.
Not seeing the same crew protesting this immense violent action? Oh thats right, communism is something to aim for, isn't it hairy lefties...?